2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, July 08 - 10

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 17:43
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09 Jul 2022, 17:40
mvfad wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 17:18
Albon was punished for doing what the two Redbull drivers did at Silverstone.

Norris was fully alongside Albon, last week was different.
Sky just showed a replay from last year of max and Charles in exactly the same scenario with no penalty. Granted rules slightly different now
It was worthy of a penalty when VER pushed LEC off and it was worthy of a penalty now. The RULES on this have not changed, regardless of the gobbledygook the the various RDs come up with.

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If the offence penalty is taken from the 2020 Hungary GP for haas, it’s a 10second penalty
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Not a big fan of sprint quali, this one was not particularly exciting, anyway:

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There really are 3 chunks: Ferrari and RBR on their own pace, then Mercs who have some compromised setup due to the crashes yesterday, and then the rest of the grid. McLaren has decent tire deg, if they play it right they could both end in points tomorrow, especially given that both HAAS seem to have a bit more deg. Perez cutting through the F1.5 championship like hot knife in butter.

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This is how the gap went between the first 2, growing for the first 10 laps, then shrinking and the last lap VER really took it easy. Here's a view of lap times between the top 2:

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Overall, either the fighting with SAI or simply tire management, Ferrari took 6-7 laps to get comfortable with the tires while VER pushed from the very start, however starting with lap 10 LEC was just a smidge faster than VER which allowed him to gain about 1s back in the following 10 laps. A few laps VER had DRS which LEC never had.
Let's see the average lap without DRS between the 2 cars:

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- These 2 cars are so close, the average lap time difference without DRS and last lap is 0.03s over 23 laps. Pretty impressive how close these 2 cars are.
- Without DRS Ferrari actually has same or slightly better top speed, not by much but better it was, particular into T6 with a 3kph advantage. Pretty even everywhere else.
- Braking and fast corners continue to be better for Ferrari while T1 and T10 continue to be better for VER, like in the quali lap.

Tomorrow this is going to be a strategy race to pass, and yeah sadly I'm not sure right now I have overwhelming trust that Ferrari will nail it. The start is also critical and even here Ferrari has under performed at race start lately, except today they did well.

I'm predicting a train start to end of the race honestly, but hoping that something fun happens and Ferrari wins of course.

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Noble29 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 16:49
Do we not have a 'live chat' feature for certain types of comments that end up clogging and baiting threads like this?
The F1 Technical discord channel is for exactly this. Glad you called it out as it was though. We should be above baiting comments in these threads. Leave that garbage for the old Twitter machine.

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What happened before the formation lap with Alonso's car? Why was it standing there with the tire warmers around it? Has anything been said about that?
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Wouter wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:34
What happened before the formation lap with Alonso's car? Why was it standing there with the tire warmers around it? Has anything been said about that?
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alon ... 60/?nrt=54

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 17:58
Max should walk this championship unless Ferrari find half a second. The fight at the front (if it exists) is not all that thrilling.
I think he already is walking it? Weren’t it for the gremlins that cost 2 DNF and the bad luck last week he would be out by a mile.

But where do you see half a second? Leclerc was closing in (after Max created the gap early on).

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Vettel got a (suspended) 25k fine because he "left the drivers' meeting [...] without permission, and expressing frustration" in the end.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXPSzQIXgAE ... &name=orig

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“Expressing frustration” :lol:

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Sevach wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 17:26
search wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 16:45
what a joke of a penalty for Albon
Total inconsistency with the last GP.
Exactly what I thought. They have turned into a bigger joke post Massi. Make no mistake tho, he was horrible.

Not sure what to call these clowns.
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Sieper wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:42
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 17:58
Max should walk this championship unless Ferrari find half a second. The fight at the front (if it exists) is not all that thrilling.
I think he already is walking it? Weren’t it for the gremlins that cost 2 DNF and the bad luck last week he would be out by a mile.

But where do you see half a second? Leclerc was closing in (after Max created the gap early on).
Max had it under control as usual. No sweat.
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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:17
If the offence penalty is taken from the 2020 Hungary GP for haas, it’s a 10second penalty
Perez wouldn't be hurt by it, Schumacher and others a whole lot however.

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vanburin wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:39
Wouter wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:34
What happened before the formation lap with Alonso's car? Why was it standing there with the tire warmers around it? Has anything been said about that?
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alon ... 60/?nrt=54
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