2022 French Grand Prix - Le Castellet, July 22 - 24

[cplchanb]

Can I just say, that was one of the worst commentary from Sky the whole weekend. I never wanna see Paul Di Resta in the commentary booth again. They were both so bad. If you can't get Martin in then at least get someone decent, maybe Button.

is there anyone else other than me who wants james allen back??!! imo he was a very good commentator back then!

[Big Tea]

Can I just say, that was one of the worst commentary from Sky the whole weekend. I never wanna see Paul Di Resta in the commentary booth again. They were both so bad. If you can't get Martin in then at least get someone decent, maybe Button.

I think Rachel was doing an excellent job during practice sessions. She is a natural 'chatter'. Not so much for the technical, but good 'ear filling'

[RicME85]

Can I just say, that was one of the worst commentary from Sky the whole weekend. I never wanna see Paul Di Resta in the commentary booth again. They were both so bad. If you can't get Martin in then at least get someone decent, maybe Button.

Yeah Crofty is bad but adding in PDR is just awful. I would rather have JB, Karun and Pinkers chatting away like in free practice than todays combo.

[mendis]

Professor Alonso

Once again a lightening start from Alonso!

[cplchanb]

"Wheel to wheel."

https://i.imgur.com/y79xTxl.jpeg

Slam dunk penalty for Russell there, they gave it to Ocon for the same thing in the same corner.

clearly not as slam dunk as you think... NFI for them.

[TNTHead]

Wrong.

In order for a car being overtaken to be required to give sufficient room to an overtaking car, the overtaking car needs to have a significant portion of the car alongside the car being overtaken and the overtaking manoeuvre must be done in a safe and controlled manner, while enabling the car to clearly remain within the limits of the track.

When considering what is a ‘significant portion’ for an overtaking on the inside of a corner, among the various factors that will be looked at by the stewards when exercising their discretion, the stewards will consider if the overtaking car’s front tyres are alongside the other car by no later than the apex of the corner.

Fair enough, but nowhere says that they have the right to slam on the side of the overtaken car, Perez left space clearly so he's not in violation.

It depends on perspective… From my point of view, Perez “close the door” knowing that Russell was there, therefore been the one initiating the contact… Perez drove into the Apex as if Russell’s car wasn’t there… So, Perez didn’t “leave space”.

On the other hand, it was a very late overtaking attempt from Russell, therefore he also bears responsibility… The fact that the stewards didn’t penalize either driver is a reflection of the above, both contributed to the incident.

The first reasoning I cannot follow, to me it seemed Perez was approaching the corner the normal way (on the racing line), RUS went for a gap that didn't exist, and could only make the corner by pushing PER wide, which PER did to avoid contact.

I really couldn't see any of the arguments the agitated RUS was putting forward on the team radio. Even Toto stepped in twice to calm him down. In the heat of the moment a driver can become a bit unreasonable... another example.

[BlueCheetah66]

Can I just say, that was one of the worst commentary from Sky the whole weekend. I never wanna see Paul Di Resta in the commentary booth again. They were both so bad. If you can't get Martin in then at least get someone decent, maybe Button.

I think Rachel was doing an excellent job during practice sessions. She is a natural 'chatter'. Not so much for the technical, but good 'ear filling'

Tbf I thought it was actually decent through Practice. It was good having De Vries in for a bit. PDR was giving some good insight into the driving and the tyre situation. But after Quali started, he would not shut up about anything he noticed throughout the weekend. Its as if he was trying to push it into everyone's face that 'I noticed this first'

[organic]

Professor Alonso

Once again a lightening start from Alonso!

The launch wasn't brilliant but insane second phase. Also confidence to go to the dusty inside. Very nice

[RicME85]

Wrong.

In order for a car being overtaken to be required to give sufficient room to an overtaking car, the overtaking car needs to have a significant portion of the car alongside the car being overtaken and the overtaking manoeuvre must be done in a safe and controlled manner, while enabling the car to clearly remain within the limits of the track.

When considering what is a ‘significant portion’ for an overtaking on the inside of a corner, among the various factors that will be looked at by the stewards when exercising their discretion, the stewards will consider if the overtaking car’s front tyres are alongside the other car by no later than the apex of the corner.

Fair enough, but nowhere says that they have the right to slam on the side of the overtaken car, Perez left space clearly so he's not in violation.

It depends on perspective… From my point of view, Perez “close the door” knowing that Russell was there, therefore been the one initiating the contact… Perez drove into the Apex as if Russell’s car wasn’t there… So, Perez didn’t “leave space”.

On the other hand, it was a very late overtaking attempt from Russell, therefore he also bears responsibility… The fact that the stewards didn’t penalize either driver is a reflection of the above, both contributed to the incident.

It was 6 of one, half a dozen of the other IMO.

Russell certainly put his car into an ever closing gap due to Perez' line and then ran Perez out of road mid chicane but Perez also took a defensive line that continually narrowed despite Russell being far enough alongside to be allowed room yet still kept narrowing the corner

[cplchanb]

Rosberg said what everyone thinks but avoided talking about

and Russel is just.......

Very lucky not to get a penalty

I can't even imagine what he was mumbling about on the radio, he had absolutely no business being there and then left no room, basically created collision situation, should have received something like a warning, not a penalty, but warning from stewards, that was unacceptable move, especially coupled with moaning on the radio, he seems to think he had legit claim to that corner

this is pretty much what max did to ham several times last year such as imola and the race start in AD... divebombs to force the move or take them both out. its funny how some people just forget about the blue driver last year and excuse that as hard racing.

[mzivtins]

Fair enough, but nowhere says that they have the right to slam on the side of the overtaken car, Perez left space clearly so he's not in violation.

It depends on perspective… From my point of view, Perez “close the door” knowing that Russell was there, therefore been the one initiating the contact… Perez drove into the Apex as if Russell’s car wasn’t there… So, Perez didn’t “leave space”.

On the other hand, it was a very late overtaking attempt from Russell, therefore he also bears responsibility… The fact that the stewards didn’t penalize either driver is a reflection of the above, both contributed to the incident.

The first reasoning I cannot follow, to me it seemed Perez was approaching the corner the normal way (on the racing line), RUS went for a gap that didn't exist, and could only make the corner by pushing PER wide, which PER did to avoid contact.

I really couldn't see any of the arguments the agitated RUS was putting forward on the team radio. Even Toto stepped in twice to calm him down. In the heat of the moment a driver can become a bit unreasonable... another example.

If the gap didn't exist then how was russels car able to be alongside perez's on the approach to the Apex?

I think it was a racing incident only, no foul play came from it, it was a fiesty move against a fiesty defender

[Ben1980]

So, that was pretty dull.

[chrisc90]

If the gap didn't exist then how was russels car able to be alongside perez's on the approach to the Apex?

I think it was a racing incident only, no foul play came from it, it was a fiesty move against a fiesty defender

Russel still should have left space on the outside though, instead forcing him off track

[BlueCheetah66]

What I think this race highlighted is that the tyres do need some altering. I feel like they are too high grip. If Pirelli were able to make tyres of less grip but similar life to the current ones it would help a lot. Too many times this race the driver behind was stuck behind because they can only really go 1 line through a corner. I think lower grip tyres would improve the overtaking at areas that are not just at the end of straights

[Watto]

Binotto saying they made the right call with Sainz I am still struggling with. Way too late for a 2nd stop surly they needed to ake to 10 odd laps earlier to make up the ground required. Sainz had a great race though.


The Mercs did pretty well too probably not enough to push Max or Charles (or Sainz today) but much closer they have made a lot of ground. Max while was able to pull away wasn't able pull a pit stop like gap like they have been able to earlier in the season.

Ferarri probably have the best car (just) atm but keep making mistakes.