Max Verstappen has won his home Grand Prix at Zandvoort for the second time in a row after a strategical race involving all three Pirelli tyre compounds. Mercedes' George Russell finished second with Charles Leclerc completing the podium.
I looked it up, the record is 13 wins by Schumacher and Vettel. 4 more wins seems doable but not easy.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:02Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season.
organic wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:41Bahrain, Australia, Monaco, Spain, Canada, Austria, Hungary (without Charles' pit for hards) - Ferrari had an advantage
France, Baku and Saudi - looked about equal, especially Saudi considering Charles only couldn't attack max at the end due to yellows
Imola, Miami, Silverstone RB had the advantageb
That's 7 races where Ferrari had the upper hand in pace, 3 races where they were about equal, and 3 races where RB had the upper hand
Seems like from the results, rb18 is hardly a dominant car but more like a dominant team. Fewer driver, strategy mistakes.
There is literally zero chance this is true. This is not what happened there. He went too early maybe to try and catch Max napping but he should have waited until midway through the straight at least. It's not the first time I have not been impressed with a restart of his.Wouter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:28.selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 16:44Nice strategy from AT and RB to help Max then FIA helped him as well when Bottas stopped the car in the starting grid at pit straight. Why FIA waited for Safety car to release? They released Safety car when Max at the start of Pit entry. Too much of politics in F1 sports as well. Any car stopped at starting grid straight should be immediate safety car.
If Max wins it is because he had help from the FIA and/or SAT and it wasn't because he was good.
How about: Bottas' Alfa has a Ferrari engine !!! AND he is a former Mercedes driver and boyfriend of Toto Wolff >>> caused a SC
so Lewis could win the race?!
This is also a stupid conspiracy theory!
By the way ....The restart after the safety car, I got the impression that Lewis wanted to forced Max into a penalty
by letting him pass just before the finish line by slowing down a bit.
But Max knows Lewis's games, because Lewis has tried this before with Max!
It's almost like looking at the points outcome which is affected by so many different things doesn't tell you how good the cars actually areBen1980 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:46organic wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:41Bahrain, Australia, Monaco, Spain, Canada, Austria, Hungary (without Charles' pit for hards) - Ferrari had an advantage
France, Baku and Saudi - looked about equal, especially Saudi considering Charles only couldn't attack max at the end due to yellows
Imola, Miami, Silverstone RB had the advantageb
That's 7 races where Ferrari had the upper hand in pace, 3 races where they were about equal, and 3 races where RB had the upper hand
Seems like from the results, rb18 is hardly a dominant car but more like a dominant team. Fewer driver, strategy mistakes.
In a season where he is 100 plus points ahead and will challenge for the record wins in a season, the car and driver are only the fastest in 3 races?
OK...
If we leave the AT and Tsunoda issue,Wouter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:28.selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 16:44Nice strategy from AT and RB to help Max then FIA helped him as well when Bottas stopped the car in the starting grid at pit straight. Why FIA waited for Safety car to release? They released Safety car when Max at the start of Pit entry. Too much of politics in F1 sports as well. Any car stopped at starting grid straight should be immediate safety car.
If Max wins it is because he had help from the FIA and/or SAT and it wasn't because he was good.
How about: Bottas' Alfa has a Ferrari engine !!! AND he is a former Mercedes driver and boyfriend of Toto Wolff >>> caused a SC
so Lewis could win the race?!
This is also a stupid conspiracy theory!
By the way .... The restart after the safety car, I got the impression that Lewis wanted to forced Max into a penalty
by letting him pass just before the finish line by slowing down a bit.
But Max knows Lewis's games, because Lewis has tried this before with Max!
Yeah, i don't know what's the point on insisting on this false premise?! To show how Max is just a driver from another planet despite all? I mean, I obviously route for him, but in no way Id think that he would achieve anything close to this without a great car. And don't give me that "look at Perez" BS once again... Don't want to argue on this. People can go on and think whatever they like, but somewhere there is a problem of lack of understanding of reading the race at the end. I'm watching this sport for more than 30 years now, and long time stoped believing in Santa.Ben1980 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:46organic wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:41Bahrain, Australia, Monaco, Spain, Canada, Austria, Hungary (without Charles' pit for hards) - Ferrari had an advantage
France, Baku and Saudi - looked about equal, especially Saudi considering Charles only couldn't attack max at the end due to yellows
Imola, Miami, Silverstone RB had the advantageb
That's 7 races where Ferrari had the upper hand in pace, 3 races where they were about equal, and 3 races where RB had the upper hand
Seems like from the results, rb18 is hardly a dominant car but more like a dominant team. Fewer driver, strategy mistakes.
In a season where he is 100 plus points ahead and will challenge for the record wins in a season, the car and driver are only the fastest in 3 races?
OK...
Feel free to articulate and explain why I'm incorrect about Ferrari being quicker at 7/13 of the tracks in the first half of the season.dxpetrov wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 19:02Yeah, i don't know what's the point on insisting on this false premise?! To show how Max is just a driver from another planet despite all? I mean, I obviously route for him, but in no way Id think that he would achieve anything close to this without a great car. And don't give me that "look at Perez" BS once again... Don't want to argue on this. People can go on and think whatever they like, but somewhere there is a problem of lack of understanding of reading the race at the end. I'm watching this sport for more than 30 years now, and long time stoped believing in Santa.Ben1980 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:46organic wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 18:41
Bahrain, Australia, Monaco, Spain, Canada, Austria, Hungary (without Charles' pit for hards) - Ferrari had an advantage
France, Baku and Saudi - looked about equal, especially Saudi considering Charles only couldn't attack max at the end due to yellows
Imola, Miami, Silverstone RB had the advantageb
That's 7 races where Ferrari had the upper hand in pace, 3 races where they were about equal, and 3 races where RB had the upper hand
Seems like from the results, rb18 is hardly a dominant car but more like a dominant team. Fewer driver, strategy mistakes.
In a season where he is 100 plus points ahead and will challenge for the record wins in a season, the car and driver are only the fastest in 3 races?
OK...
If RB18 really were so dominant then you would have more RedBull 1&2 starts and 1&2 finishes like Mercedes had with their power unit advantage.
He never had a car like the F2002/F2004 or W05/W06/W07/W10/W11.
Was Austria and France a quarter of the way through the season? 2 races where RB were on the back foot? They fizzled out from Hungary onwards which is over halfway - be honest.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑04 Sep 2022, 19:08At the end of the day. A challenge from Ferrari that fizzled a quarter of the way thru the season and zero challenge from Perez. This is how dominant seasons are born. Max will break the wins and points record it's only a matter of when.
