Telemetry Ferrari test day 1 by Federico Albano
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That sounds reassuring, because it really didn't look good in the afternoon.
Rory Byrne had a lot of influence on the design and concept of a new car for the first time since the F2007 with the F1-75. So it should come as no surprise that the F1-75 and the SF-23 that evolved from it bear much of his signature, rather than just refined detail solutions, projects, concepts and improvements he contributed to the 2017 and 2018 Ferraris. So it's fair to say that the SF-23 resembles a 2005 Ferrari or an F2004 to some extent. But I would rather say that it bears Rory Byrne's signature. It's a pity that Rory only works part time as a consultant. And from Thailand. What would be possible if he would work 250 hours a month on site in Maranello like from 1997-2004 and 2006?aleks_ader wrote: ↑23 Feb 2023, 22:52Yeah more like baby bouncing haha. If it fast and in AOM metric who cares. Same goes for looks.
Seems Merc and Ferrari both sticked with known philosophies. Its shows that F1 aerodynamicist can skin the cat differently and still get the similar results (although HUGE caviat for now).
Would be very exiting too see if Ferrari shows more low drag character. And Merc shows more load and drag. Too me seems Ferrari very slick design.
They avoided internal aero at all cost. Arguably less skin friction hence less drag already. Still rest of car is very 2005ih philosophy really. Gills with modern pre 2022 slim coke bottle treatment. Quite cute :d although by whole grid quite gentle undercut.
I share a similar degree of confusion. The skinny wing on the Ferrari for a medium load circuit like Bahrain is impressive and suggest they are generating quite a bit of performance from the floor. In comparison to opposition (i know I'm treading water with staying on topic...). You would be lead to believe the Ferrari has the stronger floor.Andi76 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2023, 23:08
What surprises me here is that the W14 has a much larger rear wing. Compared to almost all other cars. This suggests that Ferrari obviously generates more downforce via the underbody than Mercedes, even though Ferrari may not have driven with the actual Bahrain wing. This brought something back to my mind - that many Italian experts in 2022 have claimed that the Mercedes concept generates less downforce than Ferrari's concept, while Mercedes itself and the British and German media have always claimed that the Zeropod concept achieves superior downforce. Mercedes could not use it only because of the higher ground clearances imposed by porpoising and had to use larger wings. But the fact that Mercedes is using very large wings again with the W14 makes me slowly doubt this version and rather believe the Italian experts. Because why should Mercedes use larger wings again with the W14 if this concept (even if it is no longer a "full" zeropod concept) brings such superior downforce values? For me this makes no sense, because if I produce superior downforce via underbody and diffuser, I use smaller wings to have less drag to have even a higher top speed.
Top speed is measured with the wing open so to a certain extent, the shape of the wing when it is closed doesn't matter so much.
I think him and the aero team at Ferrari nailed the design of the F1-75 for the original 2022 regulations, but unfortunately those changed quite a bit in a critical area in the middle of last year, and even further now, so hopefully they can adopt to it. Do we know if Byrne was involved at all with the current project?Andi76 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2023, 23:08
Rory Byrne had a lot of influence on the design and concept of a new car for the first time since the F2007 with the F1-75. So it should come as no surprise that the F1-75 and the SF-23 that evolved from it bear much of his signature, rather than just refined detail solutions, projects, concepts and improvements he contributed to the 2017 and 2018 Ferraris. So it's fair to say that the SF-23 resembles a 2005 Ferrari or an F2004 to some extent. But I would rather say that it bears Rory Byrne's signature. It's a pity that Rory only works part time as a consultant. And from Thailand. What would be possible if he would work 250 hours a month on site in Maranello like from 1997-2004 and 2006?
Given the Haas had a higher top speed despite a larger wing, the simple explanation is that Ferrari are running the engine lower.
Where you are seeing this? Every source I looked at has Haas at 322 km/h and Ferrari at a 325 km/h. The Ferrari has the higher top speed.f1316 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2023, 05:10Given the Haas had a higher top speed despite a larger wing, the simple explanation is that Ferrari are running the engine lower.
He was involved in the current project. He still works as a consultant for Ferrari.deadhead wrote: ↑24 Feb 2023, 04:18I think him and the aero team at Ferrari nailed the design of the F1-75 for the original 2022 regulations, but unfortunately those changed quite a bit in a critical area in the middle of last year, and even further now, so hopefully they can adopt to it. Do we know if Byrne was involved at all with the current project?Andi76 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2023, 23:08
Rory Byrne had a lot of influence on the design and concept of a new car for the first time since the F2007 with the F1-75. So it should come as no surprise that the F1-75 and the SF-23 that evolved from it bear much of his signature, rather than just refined detail solutions, projects, concepts and improvements he contributed to the 2017 and 2018 Ferraris. So it's fair to say that the SF-23 resembles a 2005 Ferrari or an F2004 to some extent. But I would rather say that it bears Rory Byrne's signature. It's a pity that Rory only works part time as a consultant. And from Thailand. What would be possible if he would work 250 hours a month on site in Maranello like from 1997-2004 and 2006?