2023 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 03 - 05

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7.5s and couple eyes squinting XD
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dialtone wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:34
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:05
as you can see he only needed a small lift AFTER hes out of the cockpit....
people are blowing up by a screenshot and making it seem like he needed a wheelchair lift but not watching the whole clip for the entire story. :x
you do know he needs to be out of the car in 10 seconds. Setting aside that he's not even unbuckling his harness, he starts leaving the car at 8s into the video and is out of the car at 32s. I'm not a math major but that looks longer than 10s.
youre not seriously using that clip as a measurement for fia standards ...... thats not a timed exercise

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organic wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:23


Some teams holding back quite a lot

We already know Ferrari will be more than 1s per lap quicker than the f1-75, and same with the RB18 given how overweight it was this time last year

Some significant sandbagging going on
I am not so sure about that. That list is pretty well correlated with the time in the wind tunnel and CFD the teams were allowed.

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piast9 wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:07
organic wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:23


Some teams holding back quite a lot

We already know Ferrari will be more than 1s per lap quicker than the f1-75, and same with the RB18 given how overweight it was this time last year

Some significant sandbagging going on
I am not so sure about that. That list is pretty well correlated with the time in the wind tunnel and CFD the teams were allowed.
That is an interesting observation. Impressive I have to say.
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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:27
piast9 wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:07
organic wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:23


Some teams holding back quite a lot

We already know Ferrari will be more than 1s per lap quicker than the f1-75, and same with the RB18 given how overweight it was this time last year

Some significant sandbagging going on
I am not so sure about that. That list is pretty well correlated with the time in the wind tunnel and CFD the teams were allowed.
That is an interesting observation. Impressive I have to say.
That made me think too. You may well be onto something with that. Nice one

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organic wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:23


Some teams holding back quite a lot

We already know Ferrari will be more than 1s per lap quicker than the f1-75, and same with the RB18 given how overweight it was this time last year

Some significant sandbagging going on
Interesting indeed.

As far as sandbagging, I'm not convinced some teams are sandbagging more than others... at least not significantly more. Last year FP2 had the faster times of the 3 practice sessions. Pretty much all the teams improved across the board in Quali between roughly 1.2s to 1.8s. I can see them all dialing it back a bit in practice to simply not blow an engine, or put it into the wall (high risk, no reward).

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dialtone wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:34
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:05
as you can see he only needed a small lift AFTER hes out of the cockpit....
people are blowing up by a screenshot and making it seem like he needed a wheelchair lift but not watching the whole clip for the entire story. :x
you do know he needs to be out of the car in 10 seconds. Setting aside that he's not even unbuckling his harness, he starts leaving the car at 8s into the video and is out of the car at 32s. I'm not a math major but that looks longer than 10s.
It’s clear he’s not in great shape, however I’m sure he could get out faster than that if he really needed to. He just looks like someone that’s trying not to exacerbate his injury.

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Mogster wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:40
dialtone wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:34
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:05


as you can see he only needed a small lift AFTER hes out of the cockpit....
people are blowing up by a screenshot and making it seem like he needed a wheelchair lift but not watching the whole clip for the entire story. :x
you do know he needs to be out of the car in 10 seconds. Setting aside that he's not even unbuckling his harness, he starts leaving the car at 8s into the video and is out of the car at 32s. I'm not a math major but that looks longer than 10s.
It’s clear he’s not in great shape, however I’m sure he could get out faster than that if he really needed to. He just looks like someone that’s trying not to exacerbate his injury.
So the one time he really needs to, he'll exacerbate the injury? :?
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What a joke if they let Stroll race. He can’t even turn the wheel to follow the best line. His privilege is pathetic. Smh.
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cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:04
dialtone wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:34
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:05


as you can see he only needed a small lift AFTER hes out of the cockpit....
people are blowing up by a screenshot and making it seem like he needed a wheelchair lift but not watching the whole clip for the entire story. :x
you do know he needs to be out of the car in 10 seconds. Setting aside that he's not even unbuckling his harness, he starts leaving the car at 8s into the video and is out of the car at 32s. I'm not a math major but that looks longer than 10s.
youre not seriously using that clip as a measurement for fia standards ...... thats not a timed exercise
Yeah, being unable to grab the bar and hoist yourself up is not the same as not doing it because your hands are sore.
If his A$$ was on fire I bet he would be out in less than the 7 seconds.
But there are those on here you will never convince He is not the antichrist and eats babies
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The second time this weekend (not even that yet) that medical notes from team doctors (presumably) have took precedence over safety.

What happened to a FIA doctor who was impartial to assess drivers on their condition whether fit to race, or the outcome of certain things.
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Big Tea wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 00:12
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:04
dialtone wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:34


you do know he needs to be out of the car in 10 seconds. Setting aside that he's not even unbuckling his harness, he starts leaving the car at 8s into the video and is out of the car at 32s. I'm not a math major but that looks longer than 10s.
youre not seriously using that clip as a measurement for fia standards ...... thats not a timed exercise
Yeah, being unable to grab the bar and hoist yourself up is not the same as not doing it because your hands are sore.
If his A$$ was on fire I bet he would be out in less than the 7 seconds.
But there are those on here you will never convince He is not the antichrist and eats babies
I don't think the sentiment/concern comes from a place of "Lance is evil, etc etc".

I think it comes from a place of worry but at the end of the day, it's Lance's decision to make so he's not exactly going to be taking advice from anyone on here anyway. That doesn't mean we cannot discuss that it's a strange decision, considering comparisons to similar decisions made in other forms of motorsport, and sport in general which turned out to have negative longer term consequences.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:58
Mogster wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:40
dialtone wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 21:34


you do know he needs to be out of the car in 10 seconds. Setting aside that he's not even unbuckling his harness, he starts leaving the car at 8s into the video and is out of the car at 32s. I'm not a math major but that looks longer than 10s.
It’s clear he’s not in great shape, however I’m sure he could get out faster than that if he really needed to. He just looks like someone that’s trying not to exacerbate his injury.
So the one time he really needs to, he'll exacerbate the injury? :?
itll be life over limb at that point

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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 01:30
Big Tea wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 00:12
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 23:04

youre not seriously using that clip as a measurement for fia standards ...... thats not a timed exercise
Yeah, being unable to grab the bar and hoist yourself up is not the same as not doing it because your hands are sore.
If his A$$ was on fire I bet he would be out in less than the 7 seconds.
But there are those on here you will never convince He is not the antichrist and eats babies
I don't think the sentiment/concern comes from a place of "Lance is evil, etc etc".

I think it comes from a place of worry but at the end of the day, it's Lance's decision to make so he's not exactly going to be taking advice from anyone on here anyway. That doesn't mean we cannot discuss that it's a strange decision, considering comparisons to similar decisions made in other forms of motorsport, and sport in general which turned out to have negative longer term consequences.
respectfully disagree...had it been max with the broken wrists his rabid fans would be calling him a hero and comparing him to lauda 76.... its simply the fact that lance just got another convenient excuse to be hated on because of his "family business"

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cplchanb wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 03:37
AR3-GP wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 01:30
Big Tea wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 00:12


Yeah, being unable to grab the bar and hoist yourself up is not the same as not doing it because your hands are sore.
If his A$$ was on fire I bet he would be out in less than the 7 seconds.
But there are those on here you will never convince He is not the antichrist and eats babies
I don't think the sentiment/concern comes from a place of "Lance is evil, etc etc".

I think it comes from a place of worry but at the end of the day, it's Lance's decision to make so he's not exactly going to be taking advice from anyone on here anyway. That doesn't mean we cannot discuss that it's a strange decision, considering comparisons to similar decisions made in other forms of motorsport, and sport in general which turned out to have negative longer term consequences.
respectfully disagree...had it been max with the broken wrists his rabid fans would be calling him a hero and comparing him to lauda 76.... its simply the fact that lance just got another convenient excuse to be hated on because of his "family business"
Have you heard of Marc Marquez? How much of a hero does he look like now? Anyway, as I said before, it's up to Lance and his cohort, not us. That doesn't mean we can't express concern.
A lion must kill its prey.