2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Wouter wrote:
07 May 2023, 10:10
Evo2racer wrote:
07 May 2023, 09:50
Wouter wrote:
07 May 2023, 09:36
So a nice clean slippery track today!

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Great news
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Why?
In rain car has less influence than usual,and driver has more
Given that Alonso is about 7 000 000 times better driver than Perez, do the conclusion.
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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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GoranF1 wrote:
07 May 2023, 11:04
Wouter wrote:
07 May 2023, 10:10
Evo2racer wrote:
07 May 2023, 09:50

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Great news
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Why?
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In rain car has less influence than usual,and driver has more
Given that Alonso is about 7 000 000 times better driver than Perez, do the conclusion.
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Yes, I agree but he is not talking about rain during the race but about a clean track now.
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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Schuttelberg wrote:
07 May 2023, 10:28
There is something so satisfying about Mercs being top in practice and now getting smashed by half the grid. The tirade from 14-21 of them being slow and others being "very quick" when they were well clear of the others and just playing games with the fans biting them in the @rse is just satisfying AF.

Didn't Toto once say that "Williams are a threat?" when the whole world knew they were struggling for money, Toto got their lead driver in the 11th hour and had his own driver put in that team. As a long time fan of the old racing team, seeing Williams even if just for a weekend actually beat their star driver in one session on merit is just gold!
In their glory years they had some contempt on all others with their mind games. To see them now struggle feels in some way just. It is the same as with empires: they don't last forever. And it is good for the sport for others to take over. Now RB, may be next year AM, may be Williams, who knows.
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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Herc15 wrote:
07 May 2023, 08:22
djones wrote:
07 May 2023, 03:42
Perez cementing his position again as the best Redbull driver 2023 so far.
Sometimes I wonder if I am watching the same season as some of the commenters here are.

Spot On... :D :D

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3.r.i.i.i wrote:
07 May 2023, 00:03
What happend to Fia Team driver Max.Didn't watch quali.

He beat the pants of the FIA's driver BLM... :lol:
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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Wouter wrote:
07 May 2023, 11:17
GoranF1 wrote:
07 May 2023, 11:04
Wouter wrote:
07 May 2023, 10:10

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Why?
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In rain car has less influence than usual,and driver has more
Given that Alonso is about 7 000 000 times better driver than Perez, do the conclusion.
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Yes, I agree but he is not talking about rain during the race but about a clean track now.
Sounds to me like they are stacking red flags, so hope the commentary team have some interesting things to fill the gaps.
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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Schuttelberg wrote:
07 May 2023, 10:28
There is something so satisfying about Mercs being top in practice and now getting smashed by half the grid. The tirade from 14-21 of them being slow and others being "very quick" when they were well clear of the others and just playing games with the fans biting them in the @rse is just satisfying AF.

Didn't Toto once say that "Williams are a threat?" when the whole world knew they were struggling for money, Toto got their lead driver in the 11th hour and had his own driver put in that team. As a long time fan of the old racing team, seeing Williams even if just for a weekend actually beat their star driver in one session on merit is just gold!

Hell Yes !!! :D :D

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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mclaren111 wrote:
07 May 2023, 11:38
Herc15 wrote:
07 May 2023, 08:22
djones wrote:
07 May 2023, 03:42
Perez cementing his position again as the best Redbull driver 2023 so far.
Sometimes I wonder if I am watching the same season as some of the commenters here are.

Spot On... :D :D
Correct me if I’m wrong (I usually am), but was it not for a technical issues two races ago, Perez would be leading the championship?

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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djones wrote:
07 May 2023, 12:34
mclaren111 wrote:
07 May 2023, 11:38
Herc15 wrote:
07 May 2023, 08:22


Sometimes I wonder if I am watching the same season as some of the commenters here are.

Spot On... :D :D
Correct me if I’m wrong (I usually am), but was it not for a technical issues two races ago, Perez would be leading the championship?
Didn't Verstappen start a race as 15th because of a technical issue as well?

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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chrisc90 wrote:
06 May 2023, 23:17
Can’t believe how long it took for the red to come out either. Usually it’s instant when a car hits the barrier. Took forever today.
20-25seconds. I bet a lot of that was to create a show for tomorrow.
Think the FIA has been doing this for a while stalling on red or yellow flag decisions or VSC with an eye on entertainment or throwing red flags to create drama which could be a VSC

If they threw the red instantly there would have been enough time for everyone to have an outlap too obvious to me

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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chrisc90 wrote:
07 May 2023, 00:21
1min 57 remaining and a fast lap is 1:27. That’s 30seconds to get a warm up lap in.

Would have made quali interesting
How long it takes 10 cars leaving the pitlane from the green light, considering the gap they need between each other to run on clean air?

There was no time to restart the sesion, that´s all

Would have made quali interesing, but now it will make race interesing, I do prefer it this way :D

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Andres125sx wrote:
07 May 2023, 13:42
chrisc90 wrote:
07 May 2023, 00:21
1min 57 remaining and a fast lap is 1:27. That’s 30seconds to get a warm up lap in.

Would have made quali interesting
How long it takes 10 cars leaving the pitlane from the green light, considering the gap they need between each other to run on clean air?

There was no time to restart the sesion, that´s all

Would have made quali interesing, but now it will make race interesing, I do prefer it this way :D
Max's outlaps were 1.45's. Given you could leave 4-5 seconds between them you could have got at least 40% of the field through on another hot lap. Probably even more if it was a fast outlap. 15 seconds remaining if you removed the outlap speed (given cars do different outlap speeds) your looking at 4-5 cars being able to start a hot lap within a safe distance of each other. 4 cars out of 9 on a hot lap is 44% of the field.

We will have a race on the cards later today. I expect Max and Charles to clear everyone up to sainz pretty quickly then its just a case of which of the 2 has the better race pace. It will be important for Max to clear Charles quickly to avoid getting held up on the charge to the front.
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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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chrisc90 wrote:
07 May 2023, 13:50
Andres125sx wrote:
07 May 2023, 13:42
chrisc90 wrote:
07 May 2023, 00:21
1min 57 remaining and a fast lap is 1:27. That’s 30seconds to get a warm up lap in.

Would have made quali interesting
How long it takes 10 cars leaving the pitlane from the green light, considering the gap they need between each other to run on clean air?

There was no time to restart the sesion, that´s all

Would have made quali interesing, but now it will make race interesing, I do prefer it this way :D
Max's outlaps were 1.45's. Given you could leave 4-5 seconds between them you could have got at least 40% of the field through on another hot lap. Probably even more if it was a fast outlap. 15 seconds remaining if you removed the outlap speed (given cars do different outlap speeds) your looking at 4-5 cars being able to start a hot lap within a safe distance of each other. 4 cars out of 9 on a hot lap is 44% of the field.
Are you proposing a final qualifying run where only a part of the drivers who qualified to Q3 can participate? That would be extremelly unfair and against the spirit of sports.

It would also be dangerous, as all drivers will push like mad on the warm up lap to pass the line before the red light. Forcing drivers to fight on a street circuit, with cold tires from the pitlane, when you know beforehand not all of them will do it, doesn´t look like a good idea IMHO

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Andres125sx wrote:
07 May 2023, 14:05
chrisc90 wrote:
07 May 2023, 13:50
Andres125sx wrote:
07 May 2023, 13:42


How long it takes 10 cars leaving the pitlane from the green light, considering the gap they need between each other to run on clean air?

There was no time to restart the sesion, that´s all

Would have made quali interesing, but now it will make race interesing, I do prefer it this way :D
Max's outlaps were 1.45's. Given you could leave 4-5 seconds between them you could have got at least 40% of the field through on another hot lap. Probably even more if it was a fast outlap. 15 seconds remaining if you removed the outlap speed (given cars do different outlap speeds) your looking at 4-5 cars being able to start a hot lap within a safe distance of each other. 4 cars out of 9 on a hot lap is 44% of the field.
Are you proposing a final qualifying run where only a part of the drivers who qualified to Q3 can participate? That would be extremelly unfair and against the spirit of sports.

It would also be dangerous, as all drivers will push like mad on the warm up lap to pass the line before the red light. Forcing drivers to fight on a street circuit, with cold tires from the pitlane, when you know beforehand not all of them will do it, doesn´t look like a good idea IMHO
If you make it out in time then why not? Anyone could participate. It would be no different to what happens now except marginally less time.

What your technically saying, is that nobody should be allowed to leave the pitlane with a lap time + a certain amount of time added on to do another hot lap because it would be dangerous. If it was dangerous, the pit exit would be closed say 30seconds more than what lap times people were doing. The fact they dont, means its perfectly fine, and safe, to allow drivers to come out and do a lap in whatever time they feel they can get enough temperature in the tyres for a hot lap.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.