Current rumors, and that’s all they are, is a new front, rear and beam wing as well as possible other small aero bits and pieces, nothing mechanical afaik.
It is also worth remembering that this is for both Silverstone and the Hungaroring.
Current rumors, and that’s all they are, is a new front, rear and beam wing as well as possible other small aero bits and pieces, nothing mechanical afaik.
Nah I think they were just planning a BBQ.
I think so. Both Lando and Sainz started to lap slower with about 10 laps to go. I figured the teams said "you can't be caught, so just bring the car home safely". I think the tyres were on about 25+ and Sainz had pushed defending against Perez.
Yeah, I think the best thing to do would be grass or gravel instead of paved runoffs. That way the track sorts it out for you, but I also understand why tracks and the FIA might be reluctant to do so.the EDGE wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 22:40Yes agreed, I did mean ‘post-race penalties’ and not the track limit infringements themselves, however, we don’t see this at other tracks, so clearly there must be a better solution here than handing out penalties left, right & centreSlahinki wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 22:15The penalties themselves are fine. Drivers should be able to stay on the track if they want to not be penalised. However, there needs to be systems and personnel available to the stewards/FIA so they can deal with everything during the race. Having no final classification until five hours post-race is silly and at the very least borderline farcical.
And as Lando said, staying within track limits is easy, until you have someone pressing you hard. This shows, as the penalties are for those who were being chased, not the ones doing the chasing
Gravel is great and all especially for track limits, but anyone who has seen Pagenaud‘s very scary crash at mid-Ohio this weekend in indycar, knows that it’s a double edged swordSlahinki wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 23:35Yeah, I think the best thing to do would be grass or gravel instead of paved runoffs. That way the track sorts it out for you, but I also understand why tracks and the FIA might be reluctant to do so.the EDGE wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 22:40Yes agreed, I did mean ‘post-race penalties’ and not the track limit infringements themselves, however, we don’t see this at other tracks, so clearly there must be a better solution here than handing out penalties left, right & centreSlahinki wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 22:15
The penalties themselves are fine. Drivers should be able to stay on the track if they want to not be penalised. However, there needs to be systems and personnel available to the stewards/FIA so they can deal with everything during the race. Having no final classification until five hours post-race is silly and at the very least borderline farcical.
And as Lando said, staying within track limits is easy, until you have someone pressing you hard. This shows, as the penalties are for those who were being chased, not the ones doing the chasing
I wanted to but I forgotmwillems wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 21:15I've a point for all of those who are celebrating the wonderful Aero already. I notice nobody has congratulated Peter Prodmorou on the work, given that his head has been called for 23,459 and a half times on here since last year when we were feeling a little more sensitive
For those of us,like me who don't know what Cavo and Zhu does,please remaind melio007 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 13:17Next to Kennedy, Calvo and Zhu joined as well from Aston.ScottR267 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 13:11I’ve only seen Grant Kennedy join already and Mariano Alperin is joining albeit not sure of a confirmed date for him- however given his senior role at Aston Martin much like with Sanchez and Marshall will be a period of gardening leave.
Weren’t there stories of 15 engineers from the top teams which also included Ferrari and Red Bull….wonder who and their positions
My feeling is Austria suited the McLaren more, and Silverstone and Hungary will have AM, Alpine, and Mercedes back in front, but what I am hoping for from the upgrades is the gap is closer and race pace is better. Am happy to be proved wrong howeverPikeStance wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 02:57It seems we have surpassed the pace of Alpine, Mercedes and AM. Ferraris recent upgrades still have us behind them. Hopefully, the next two races upgrades will give us what we need to challenge for podiums.
Pagenaud's crash was made worse by the track design. Slightly banked corner than falling away to the gravel. He flew 100 ft before hitting the gravel.Swed3121 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 00:50Gravel is great and all especially for track limits, but anyone who has seen Pagenaud‘s very scary crash at mid-Ohio this weekend in indycar, knows that it’s a double edged swordSlahinki wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 23:35Yeah, I think the best thing to do would be grass or gravel instead of paved runoffs. That way the track sorts it out for you, but I also understand why tracks and the FIA might be reluctant to do so.the EDGE wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 22:40
Yes agreed, I did mean ‘post-race penalties’ and not the track limit infringements themselves, however, we don’t see this at other tracks, so clearly there must be a better solution here than handing out penalties left, right & centre
And as Lando said, staying within track limits is easy, until you have someone pressing you hard. This shows, as the penalties are for those who were being chased, not the ones doing the chasing
Last question, yes, I believe a collision with Stroll.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 03:14My feeling is Austria suited the McLaren more, and Silverstone and Hungary will have AM, Alpine, and Mercedes back in front, but what I am hoping for from the upgrades is the gap is closer and race pace is better. Am happy to be proved wrong howeverPikeStance wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 02:57It seems we have surpassed the pace of Alpine, Mercedes and AM. Ferraris recent upgrades still have us behind them. Hopefully, the next two races upgrades will give us what we need to challenge for podiums.
What was the reason Piastri had to pit again? Front wing damage from a collision with someone is what I heard.