2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[ME4ME]

Liberty can have their opinion but if said drivers are under contract elsewhere then nothing come of it.

Liberty better go put pressure on Ferrari, Mclaren and Mercedes to start doing a better job.

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https://formu1a.uno/red-bull-e-quella-v ... n-leclerc/

Formu1a reports that there is pressure from Liberty on RB to have two top drivers should the car be dominant.

According to Formu1a, RB and leclerc made contact at the end of May and Marko-Norris in recent weeks.

Seems Oliver Mintzlaff's replacement of Dietrich may also be a factor. He could be also pushing for the same thing.

This makes no sense...why would Liberty want to kill the competition by forcing the dominant team to take on TWO dominant drivers. Also who will pay for all those driver budgets? If anything, Liberty should be trying to convince RBR to take on the worst possible second driver so keep the competition interesting

Liberty wants on track battles for the lead - a better show. If it has to be 2 more years of dominance then they'd probably want an intra-team battle rather than Max having a 100 pt WDC lead after 10 rounds

[Just_a_fan]

https://formu1a.uno/red-bull-e-quella-v ... n-leclerc/

Formu1a reports that there is pressure from Liberty on RB to have two top drivers should the car be dominant.

According to Formu1a, RB and leclerc made contact at the end of May and Marko-Norris in recent weeks.

Seems Oliver Mintzlaff's replacement of Dietrich may also be a factor. He could be also pushing for the same thing.

This makes no sense...why would Liberty want to kill the competition by forcing the dominant team to take on TWO dominant drivers. Also who will pay for all those driver budgets? If anything, Liberty should be trying to convince RBR to take on the worst possible second driver so keep the competition interesting

How does putting a very weak driver in the second seat of one of the most dominant cars in F1 history make "competition interesting"?

[Macklaren]

https://formu1a.uno/red-bull-e-quella-v ... n-leclerc/

Formu1a reports that there is pressure from Liberty on RB to have two top drivers should the car be dominant.

According to Formu1a, RB and leclerc made contact at the end of May and Marko-Norris in recent weeks.

Seems Oliver Mintzlaff's replacement of Dietrich may also be a factor. He could be also pushing for the same thing.

This makes no sense...why would Liberty want to kill the competition by forcing the dominant team to take on TWO dominant drivers. Also who will pay for all those driver budgets? If anything, Liberty should be trying to convince RBR to take on the worst possible second driver so keep the competition interesting

How does putting a very weak driver in the second seat of one of the most dominant cars in F1 history make "competition interesting"?

By making the Constructor's Championship more interesting and something to play for. Unlike the foregone conclusion that the Drivers' Championship is today (not saying anyone is likely to catch RBR this year, its slightly just less of a certainty than Max winning)

[Hammerfist]

This makes no sense...why would Liberty want to kill the competition by forcing the dominant team to take on TWO dominant drivers. Also who will pay for all those driver budgets? If anything, Liberty should be trying to convince RBR to take on the worst possible second driver so keep the competition interesting

How does putting a very weak driver in the second seat of one of the most dominant cars in F1 history make "competition interesting"?

By making the Constructor's Championship more interesting and something to play for. Unlike the foregone conclusion that the Drivers' Championship is today (not saying anyone is likely to catch RBR this year, its slightly just less of a certainty than Max winning)

Nobody really cares about the constructor championship. Most normal fans couldn't care less. They want to see two drivers fighting for the win. And Max could win the constructors championship by himself anyway.

If Liberty managed to force RBR to take on Norris, Leclerc or even Russell I would forgive them for all the shenanigans they've been pulling the last few years. But back to reality; it's never going to happen.

[Juzh]

Even the teams dont really care about wcc ultimately. Never demonstrated better than abu dhabi 2021 - merc sad faces while winning WCC, RB over the moon despite losing it. Only teams scrapped for cash put any value to their WCC position.

[Just_a_fan]

This makes no sense...why would Liberty want to kill the competition by forcing the dominant team to take on TWO dominant drivers. Also who will pay for all those driver budgets? If anything, Liberty should be trying to convince RBR to take on the worst possible second driver so keep the competition interesting

How does putting a very weak driver in the second seat of one of the most dominant cars in F1 history make "competition interesting"?

By making the Constructor's Championship more interesting and something to play for. Unlike the foregone conclusion that the Drivers' Championship is today (not saying anyone is likely to catch RBR this year, its slightly just less of a certainty than Max winning)

Most people don't care about the constructor title - they want to see competition between drivers.

[Just_a_fan]

How does putting a very weak driver in the second seat of one of the most dominant cars in F1 history make "competition interesting"?

By making the Constructor's Championship more interesting and something to play for. Unlike the foregone conclusion that the Drivers' Championship is today (not saying anyone is likely to catch RBR this year, its slightly just less of a certainty than Max winning)

Nobody really cares about the constructor championship. Most normal fans couldn't care less. They want to see two drivers fighting for the win. And Max could win the constructors championship by himself anyway.

Max is currently leading both driver and constructor points on his own. That's how far ahead he is.

[Alonsismo]

the only way to make the fight interesting is to put Max and Fernando in Red Bull.

Complete opposite vehicle behavior preferences. RB19 is 100% catered to Max' driving style.

yes. thats true, but Alonso is a god in any car, so the war would be epic and we all would enjoy that

[Alonsismo]

By making the Constructor's Championship more interesting and something to play for. Unlike the foregone conclusion that the Drivers' Championship is today (not saying anyone is likely to catch RBR this year, its slightly just less of a certainty than Max winning)

Nobody really cares about the constructor championship. Most normal fans couldn't care less. They want to see two drivers fighting for the win. And Max could win the constructors championship by himself anyway.

Max is currently leading both driver and constructor points on his own. That's how far ahead he is.

max now has only one point less than Vettel when he won the 2010 WDC.
its crazy

[Just_a_fan]

Nobody really cares about the constructor championship. Most normal fans couldn't care less. They want to see two drivers fighting for the win. And Max could win the constructors championship by himself anyway.

Max is currently leading both driver and constructor points on his own. That's how far ahead he is.

max now has only one point less than Vettel when he won the 2010 WDC.
its crazy

Max could be the first driver to score 500 points in a season. The lack of an effective challenge from the other seat means it's going to need something "interesting " happening to prevent it.

[taperoo2k]

https://formu1a.uno/red-bull-e-quella-v ... n-leclerc/

Formu1a reports that there is pressure from Liberty on RB to have two top drivers should the car be dominant.

According to Formu1a, RB and leclerc made contact at the end of May and Marko-Norris in recent weeks.

Seems Oliver Mintzlaff's replacement of Dietrich may also be a factor. He could be also pushing for the same thing.

This makes no sense...why would Liberty want to kill the competition by forcing the dominant team to take on TWO dominant drivers. Also who will pay for all those driver budgets? If anything, Liberty should be trying to convince RBR to take on the worst possible second driver so keep the competition interesting

From Liberty's perspective it makes perfect sense. Two top drivers battling it out in the Red Bull, if they happen to crash out they have the fall out from that and then the coverage of the drivers just behind them fighting for the win. It makes no sense for any team to do that, if the objective is to secure both championships.

I guess liberty saw the battle between Max and Lewis and thought "We need that all the time".

[chrisc90]

There is never going to be a battle like Lewis and Max in 2021. That was a awesome battle across the full season. The rivalry, the dramas, the off track digs and things between team bosses. Never going to get that sort of thing again anytime soon i'd imagine. You certainly wouldn't get it if you stuck 2 drivers in the same team and said to them create drama to make it look good on TV.

This is F1. The pinnacle of motorsport. Its not the weekly Eastenders episode and creating fake drama and rivalry between teams to impress 'fans' and get viewer numbers up. Wont happen, and ill be AMAZED if the teams allow it. F1 should leave that to Brad Pitt and his little episodes he's creating with Lewis to give fans some orchestrated drama.

RB, Horner and Marko are too wise (and a little ruthless - rightfully) about who gets to drive in their team(s). They are there to build a team to succeed and to win the championships. Together with the best drivers on the grid they can get their hands on. That'll be why RB, Horner and Marko have approached the likes of Leclerc and Norris to try and get them to join. The Norris one is open knowledge, we have never had official confirmation of the Charles one from the team. It'll also be why Marko has sacked De Vries....because he wasn't performing. F1 is a cut throat sport, and if you aren't good enough or getting the results, or even a point then your out. It is no good hanging on to 'dead meat' regardless of what team your at. Hence why rightfully replacements have been brought in. I'm sure the same would happen with the likes of Mercedes, Ferrari, Aston Martin if one driver wasn't up to scratch. That's why Max had a in-season change with Kyvat? and ended up winning his first race 2 races after joining the main team. The skill and talent was there. Even down to getting Rookie of the year and Personality of the year.

What we do know at the minute is the Perez is safe until at least the end of this season. What happens after that in 2024 will massively depend on how Checo performs at the remaining races and how well Danny Ric does. What the De Vries thing should be is a MASSIVE reality check for Checo that the RB family arent scared to make a in-season change. So it will tell him that he needs to sort his driving out or be replaced (if there is suitable replacement). Which is why they have likely stuck DR in the Alpha Tauri to get a bit more real life experience of this era of cars and used to racing again. Its one thing driving the simulator, its another thing doing it on track.

Not a huge follower of F2 - but I believe there is only really Liam Lawson who is in the RB driver academy who they could realistically take a risk on. Other than that you take a current F1 driver such as Lando or Charles who have talent and could possibly be persuaded to change ships. Piastri could be another decent shout. That will depend on how well he fairs at the sharper end of the grid now McLaren seemingly have a car thats got the pace to be up there with 'the big boys'

[Sieper]

Max is currently leading both driver and constructor points on his own. That's how far ahead he is.

max now has only one point less than Vettel when he won the 2010 WDC.
its crazy

Max could be the first driver to score 500 points in a season. The lack of an effective challenge from the other seat means it's going to need something "interesting " happening to prevent it.

Max in the last 6 races left 2 points on the table. And it is very interesting what he is achieving now. Right up there with the best seasons ever, Clark and Fangio, schumi’s best season territory.

[chrisc90]

Out of a possible 276 points, Max has secured 255 of them. 92.4% of available points.

He has only dropped points in:
1pt Bahrain for fastest lap
7pts in Saudi by finishing 2nd
1pt Austrialia for Fastest lap
2pts in Baku sprint by finishing 3rd
8pts in Baku by finishing 2nd + Fastest lap
1pt in Monaco for fastest lap
1pt in Canada for fastest lap