2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 15:23
Max vs Perez at Parabolica shows some of max's ridiculously low engine mode. it is a 2015 honda.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F48Ww8iXoAA ... &name=orig
GP2 engine arrggghhhhhh.

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organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 15:23
Max vs Perez at Parabolica shows some of max's ridiculously low engine mode. it is a 2015 honda.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F48Ww8iXoAA ... &name=orig
and compared to last year's qualifying with the same wing (ignore min speeds, just looking at top speeds):

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and the jump in Zandvoort from Friday to Saturday:
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Asked if the team has improved the ride of the RB19 for bumpy street tracks like Singapore, he said: "For sure we try to improve everything we can, but some things of course, they might only be fixed for next year.

“And yeah, I do think that Singapore probably is a little bit more difficult than Spa, Zandvoort, or any of these kinds of tracks."
Interesting comment.

https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/verst ... e%E2%80%9D.
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According to Mark Hughes
Perez made up 0.650s down the straights, Verstappen made up 0.827s in the corners. But the straightline difference may make the higher downforce option vulnerable.
https://twitter.com/wearetherace/status ... 84135?s=20

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organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 15:23
Max vs Perez at Parabolica shows some of max's ridiculously low engine mode. it is a 2015 honda.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F48Ww8iXoAA ... &name=orig
How competitive would be the RB19 with 2015-2017 Honda power (apart from the DNFs)? Would have they won a race this season?

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Two changes have been made between FP1 and FP2. Max switches from the medium downforce wing to the low downforce flap trim with no gurney flap. Perez removed the gurney flap.

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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:11
Two changes have been made between FP1 and FP2. Max switches from the medium downforce wing to the low downforce flap trim with no gurney flap. Perez removed the gurney flap.
I guess the tyre wear is not as much of a concern. Maybe advantage Ferrari in that case

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still decent minimum speed @ parabolica

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organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:11
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:11
Two changes have been made between FP1 and FP2. Max switches from the medium downforce wing to the low downforce flap trim with no gurney flap. Perez removed the gurney flap.
I guess the tyre wear is not as much of a concern. Maybe advantage Ferrari in that case

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F48x6ykXQAA ... me=900x900

still decent minimum speed @ parabolica
Is this live telemetry? from FP2? Where have you found this already?

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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:56
organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:11
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:11
Two changes have been made between FP1 and FP2. Max switches from the medium downforce wing to the low downforce flap trim with no gurney flap. Perez removed the gurney flap.
I guess the tyre wear is not as much of a concern. Maybe advantage Ferrari in that case

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F48x6ykXQAA ... me=900x900

still decent minimum speed @ parabolica
Is this live telemetry? from FP2? Where have you found this already?
Federico Albano he gives me the goods on twitter. So many good fp insights

he does fp analysis / telemetry live

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organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:57
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:56
organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:11


I guess the tyre wear is not as much of a concern. Maybe advantage Ferrari in that case

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F48x6ykXQAA ... me=900x900

still decent minimum speed @ parabolica
Is this live telemetry? from FP2? Where have you found this already?
Federico Albano he gives me the goods on twitter. So many good fp insights

he does fp analysis / telemetry live
It looks like RB might still have the power down, but that 347 of Sainz.... :wtf:

No one will touch Ferrari in qualifying if that remains.

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Max seemed ok with Friday. Interrupted running and didn't get proper lap together in FP2, but no negative comments - just about analysing the results and fine tuning.

Checo seemed to be as quick as max today. I don't expect it to happen again but if it does maybe this weekend can be another exciting battle between the two

Marko on fp2

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organic wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 19:11
Max seemed ok with Friday. Interrupted running and didn't get proper lap together in FP2, but no negative comments - just about analysing the results and fine tuning.

Checo seemed to be as quick as max today. I don't expect it to happen again but if it does maybe this weekend can be another exciting battle between the two

Marko on fp2

https://i.redd.it/7x7w61thaolb1.jpg
Car was definitely oversteering. Max was having to catch the car in the parabolica on several laps of his race run.

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Slashing rear downforce surely plays a part in oversteery behaviour?

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When does anyone ever oversteer of the outside of the track?

Surely that would be understeer

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Juzh wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 19:57
Slashing rear downforce surely plays a part in oversteery behaviour?
Not if you rebalance the front accordingly.