2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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if the AM upgrades are as good at it seem they can be, it will be a very very interesting endo of season for the constructors championship battle between AM and Mclaren

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Especially with the Mercedes updates elevating their performance. I think it's a nice message to remember to not get complacent, we can easily by 4th fastest team by the start of next season.
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Alonsismo wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 10:50
if the AM upgrades are as good at it seem they can be, it will be a very very interesting endo of season for the constructors championship battle between AM and Mclaren
No doubt it will be, Aston may even climb back ahead of Mclaren in the championship and the pecking order in Mexico but dont forget Aston had another go setting their car up which the others didn’t. I think if Mclaren, Mercedes and Ferrari had a second chance at setting their car up they would have certainly made changes.
Just a fan's point of view

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mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 10:52
Especially with the Mercedes updates elevating their performance. I think it's a nice message to remember to not get complacent, we can easily by 4th fastest team by the start of next season.
Or 5th…..even by the end of the season.
Mclaren stopped development after Singapore? Red Bull after Hungary. When did Ferrari stop?
Merc and Aston have continued their development in their fight for P2
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 11:12
mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 10:52
Especially with the Mercedes updates elevating their performance. I think it's a nice message to remember to not get complacent, we can easily by 4th fastest team by the start of next season.
Or 5th…..even by the end of the season.
Mclaren stopped development after Singapore? Red Bull after Hungary. When did Ferrari stop?
Merc and Aston have continued their development in their fight for P2
Ferrari brought a new floor to Japan

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thestig84 wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 13:26
CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 11:12
mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 10:52
Especially with the Mercedes updates elevating their performance. I think it's a nice message to remember to not get complacent, we can easily by 4th fastest team by the start of next season.
Or 5th…..even by the end of the season.
Mclaren stopped development after Singapore? Red Bull after Hungary. When did Ferrari stop?
Merc and Aston have continued their development in their fight for P2
Ferrari brought a new floor to Japan
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So out if the top 5 Red Rull stopped development first, followed by McLaren, then Ferrari, Mercedes and if you believe everything Aston Martin say they’ll be developing their car till the end of the season😂
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 13:40
thestig84 wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 13:26
CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 11:12


Or 5th…..even by the end of the season.
Mclaren stopped development after Singapore? Red Bull after Hungary. When did Ferrari stop?
Merc and Aston have continued their development in their fight for P2
Ferrari brought a new floor to Japan
Thanks

So out if the top 5 Red Rull stopped development first, followed by McLaren, then Ferrari, Mercedes and if you believe everything Aston Martin say they’ll be developing their car till the end of the season😂
If they are maintaining the same chassis next year then yes they can do this. Aston Martin are a brand in crisis so they need the positive marketing. Well, to be accurate they can do it even if they don't use the same chassis, but that seems like money down the drain.

It'll be interesting to look once more at the Merc update vs Mclaren in the next race, to see just how much faster it really is, given that issues in Parce Ferme have obfuscated a little the performance review of the car.
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CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 11:12
mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 10:52
Especially with the Mercedes updates elevating their performance. I think it's a nice message to remember to not get complacent, we can easily by 4th fastest team by the start of next season.
Or 5th…..even by the end of the season.
Mclaren stopped development after Singapore? Red Bull after Hungary. When did Ferrari stop?
Merc and Aston have continued their development in their fight for P2
RB brought a new floor to Singapore.

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Tomsky wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 14:34
CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 11:12
mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 10:52
Especially with the Mercedes updates elevating their performance. I think it's a nice message to remember to not get complacent, we can easily by 4th fastest team by the start of next season.
Or 5th…..even by the end of the season.
Mclaren stopped development after Singapore? Red Bull after Hungary. When did Ferrari stop?
Merc and Aston have continued their development in their fight for P2
RB brought a new floor to Singapore.
Yes they did, didnt they!
They reverted back to the old spec for the race.
So basically Mclaren and Red Bull ceased development at the same time which is encouraging.
Just a fan's point of view

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mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 14:33
CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 13:40
thestig84 wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 13:26


Ferrari brought a new floor to Japan
Thanks

So out if the top 5 Red Rull stopped development first, followed by McLaren, then Ferrari, Mercedes and if you believe everything Aston Martin say they’ll be developing their car till the end of the season😂
If they are maintaining the same chassis next year then yes they can do this. Aston Martin are a brand in crisis so they need the positive marketing. Well, to be accurate they can do it even if they don't use the same chassis, but that seems like money down the drain.

It'll be interesting to look once more at the Merc update vs Mclaren in the next race, to see just how much faster it really is, given that issues in Parce Ferme have obfuscated a little the performance review of the car.
As always though it’s going to be difficult to fully evaluate the competitiveness.
More than likely Mclaren will struggle even more in Mexico than they did in COTA and speaking of COTA a certain Mr Hamilton is a bit of a specialist there isn’t he. Both could make us believe Merc is the stronger package where on average Mclaren still might be. The wonders of F1👍🏻
Just a fan's point of view

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https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1b ... do-it-lm22

Norris discussing the tyre wear. Aside from single lap pace, it'll be interesting to see what Mercedes tyre wear is like at the next few races, given that any extra downforce would certainly have helped this cause at Austin.
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CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 15:13
mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 14:33
CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 13:40


Thanks

So out if the top 5 Red Rull stopped development first, followed by McLaren, then Ferrari, Mercedes and if you believe everything Aston Martin say they’ll be developing their car till the end of the season😂
If they are maintaining the same chassis next year then yes they can do this. Aston Martin are a brand in crisis so they need the positive marketing. Well, to be accurate they can do it even if they don't use the same chassis, but that seems like money down the drain.

It'll be interesting to look once more at the Merc update vs Mclaren in the next race, to see just how much faster it really is, given that issues in Parce Ferme have obfuscated a little the performance review of the car.
As always though it’s going to be difficult to fully evaluate the competitiveness.
More than likely Mclaren will struggle even more in Mexico than they did in COTA and speaking of COTA a certain Mr Hamilton is a bit of a specialist there isn’t he. Both could make us believe Merc is the stronger package where on average Mclaren still might be. The wonders of F1👍🏻
It'll be an interesting test of the mechanical capabilities of the car, for sure, since these will come a little more to the fore in the high altitude. And it's probably easier to list the turns we won't be challenged on, than the ones we will.
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Tomsky wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 14:34
CjC wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 11:12
mwillems wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 10:52
Especially with the Mercedes updates elevating their performance. I think it's a nice message to remember to not get complacent, we can easily by 4th fastest team by the start of next season.
Or 5th…..even by the end of the season.
Mclaren stopped development after Singapore? Red Bull after Hungary. When did Ferrari stop?
Merc and Aston have continued their development in their fight for P2
RB brought a new floor to Singapore.
It was a minor change to the floor edge wing, not an entire new floor

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Image
The red bulb is gonna burn out if this goes on much longer

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geogate wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 16:32
https://postimg.cc/CZb2FDhJ
The red bulb is gonna burn out if this goes on much longer
You can't see it in the picture, but there's an Aldi just over the road that sells them.
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