2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[djos]

Lawson would be a better bet to replace Perez. Just like McLaren brought in Piastri, Red Bull should put in Lawson and measure him to see how good he can be. He can't be worse than Perez, but if he is somewhere close to Max, then it's job well done. He can only grow from there.

Throwing rookies into the deep end doesn't work out very often, the only 2 I can think of that worked out well are Hamilton and Piastri.

Talent doesn't need to wait for experience. With little over a season, Max won in his first race for RB. Charles was promoted after one year at Sauber. Lando was a rookie and did pretty well at McLaren. When George jumped in for one off race for Mercedes, with over a year at Williams, he almost won the race. There is no reason not to try Lawson. Talented drivers do well when the opportunity arises and if he fails, then they should move on to another driver. There is only one way to find out if he can be a top driver and that is by putting him in the RB20.

You forget that even Max had 2 years in the then Torro Rosso to learn the F1 ropes.

When Lando Joined McLaren, they were a back of the grid team, it took 3 years for them to climb into the upper mid-field.

Liam is clearly no Logan Sargent, but it's still unfair to throw him into a top team for his first full season - as you point out, even Charles got a year at Sauber to learn without being subjected to top team pressure levels.

[mendis]

Throwing rookies into the deep end doesn't work out very often, the only 2 I can think of that worked out well are Hamilton and Piastri.

Talent doesn't need to wait for experience. With little over a season, Max won in his first race for RB. Charles was promoted after one year at Sauber. Lando was a rookie and did pretty well at McLaren. When George jumped in for one off race for Mercedes, with over a year at Williams, he almost won the race. There is no reason not to try Lawson. Talented drivers do well when the opportunity arises and if he fails, then they should move on to another driver. There is only one way to find out if he can be a top driver and that is by putting him in the RB20.

Max is still very young and the entire team is build around him now. It will be be a waste of rookie talent to put him behind Max. A talented rookie should ideally be put in a place where he can beat his team-mate with the blessing and support from the team of course.

I wish they would have thought the same before putting Daniel alongside Seb or Max alongside Daniel or Lewis alongside Alonso. You see how it would have worked.

[mendis]

Throwing rookies into the deep end doesn't work out very often, the only 2 I can think of that worked out well are Hamilton and Piastri.

Talent doesn't need to wait for experience. With little over a season, Max won in his first race for RB. Charles was promoted after one year at Sauber. Lando was a rookie and did pretty well at McLaren. When George jumped in for one off race for Mercedes, with over a year at Williams, he almost won the race. There is no reason not to try Lawson. Talented drivers do well when the opportunity arises and if he fails, then they should move on to another driver. There is only one way to find out if he can be a top driver and that is by putting him in the RB20.

You forget that even Max had 2 years in the then Torro Rosso to learn the F1 ropes.

When Lando Joined McLaren, they were a back of the grid team, it took 3 years for them to climb into the upper mid-field.

Liam is clearly no Logan Sargent, but it's still unfair to throw him into a top team for his first full season - as you point out, even Charles got a year at Sauber to learn without being subjected to top team pressure levels.

Max had one full season and 4 races with TR when he joined Red Bull, not full 2 seasons.

In 2019, when Lando and Carlos joined McLaren, they finished 4th in WCC standings with Lando finishing 11th and Carlos 6th in driver standings. Even in 2023, they are standing at 4th and most certainly going to finish 4th with Oscar as a rookie doing so well.

It's a waste of time to let a driver waste his time in junior team or on the sidelines, especially when RB genuinely believes he is good. They have history of bringing young drivers into the senior team and more often than not, they have been successful. There is no reason to waste him elsewhere.

[Curbstone]

All of them had at least 1 season in a 'back of the grid' team, and competed with a mid-tier teammate. That's a season with a lot less pressure so it's not comparable to putting a rookie in a WCC-winning car (which seems difficult to drive) and have him compete with multiple WDC's Max.
I agree Lawson should have a seat next year, but not in the RB and not with Max as his teammate.

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Wet qualifying would be nice. With the wing RB are looking to choose the one-lap pace could be the real deficit, considering McLaren and Ferrari have shown up with medium df wings. Wet plays into Max's hands and the high df wing choice

[Wouter]

Daniel Ricciardo has responded to the speculation linking him with a return to Red Bull as early as next season.

Speaking to media including RacingNews365.com, Ricciardo asserted that his primary focus is delivering for AlphaTauri.

"I haven't spoken to Red Bull. All the stuff around my contract next year has been related to AlphaTauri,” he said.

“I would say that's honestly as far as that goes.”

“For me personally, having a weekend, like Mexico is just definitely good for the soul,” reflected Ricciardo.

[avantman]

Wet qualifying would be nice. With the wing RB are looking to choose the one-lap pace could be the real deficit, considering McLaren and Ferrari have shown up with medium df wings. Wet plays into Max's hands and the high df wing choice

red bull put on smaller rear wing last year and got beaten by Mercedes badly, who ran their biggest wings.
Wet plays in Max hands with any wings, he is outright best driver in these conditions.

[CHT]

Wet qualifying would be nice. With the wing RB are looking to choose the one-lap pace could be the real deficit, considering McLaren and Ferrari have shown up with medium df wings. Wet plays into Max's hands and the high df wing choice

red bull put on smaller rear wing last year and got beaten by Mercedes badly, who ran their biggest wings.
Wet plays in Max hands with any wings, he is outright best driver in these conditions.

Champions always challenge themselves to do it again

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Interview with telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2 ... formula-1/

Seems to comprise of segments from various interviews actually, with some new stuff with Waché

Waché – who lives in Oxford and has three sons, two of whom are now at British universities studying to be F1 engineers – says he does not crave public recognition. “I’m here to win, not to be known,”

[Cs98]

Wet qualifying would be nice. With the wing RB are looking to choose the one-lap pace could be the real deficit, considering McLaren and Ferrari have shown up with medium df wings. Wet plays into Max's hands and the high df wing choice

RB really are lacking a newer spec medium-high DF wing. The one they had last season is never used except for pre-season testing. I feel like the medium-high wing type really comes in handy at a lot of circuits, Brazil being one of them.

[ME4ME]

Wet qualifying would be nice. With the wing RB are looking to choose the one-lap pace could be the real deficit, considering McLaren and Ferrari have shown up with medium df wings. Wet plays into Max's hands and the high df wing choice

RB really are lacking a newer spec medium-high DF wing. The one they had last season is never used except for pre-season testing. I feel like the medium-high wing type really comes in handy at a lot of circuits, Brazil being one of them.

Quoting both here .. high-downforce wing wouldn't hurt one-lap (qualifying) pace I think. It would benefit it. On the run up the hill they will get a massive boost when opening the DRS and the rest of the lap they'll reap all the benefits of high downforce level.

Only vulnerability is in the early laps of the race when their rivals are close behind, potentially with DRS while Red Bull is without. But even if passed, they should have the grip thanks to the downforce to stay in touch and simply re-pass the next lap.

[AR3-GP]

I don't know about the absolute pace, but long run looks decent from onboards in FP1. Very clear improvement from last year. Verstappen was sent out to do 15 laps on the hard tire. His only complaint has been the wind.

[Cs98]

RB looks to be running higher fuel than the competition in FP1, per usual.

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Fp1 Perez ran the max dwf beamwing whereas max used the zandvoort/COTA/Mexico spec

Possibly the most conservative I've ever seen RB be on setup they don't want a repeat of 2022 tyre wear

[AR3-GP]

Verstappen describes the car as jumping around like a kangaroo in qualy trim. Promising.