Pace on softs requires some work. We were good on hards, within three-four tenths of RB, but on softs it was more like .6-.7.Sevach wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 19:00Gotta love those headlines "don't give up yet, Hamilton may still have a shot".
It will be for "us" next year.
The good part is that the car is consistent on both softs and hards, and doesn't have much deg, the basics work.
Now we need to extract more pace, lots of it.
Take a look at the setup see if we could play more risky in some areas...
And get that wind tunnel to work.
Hopefully other "big" teams, including Red Bull, have comparatively less room for improvement due to being at second-third- fourth iteration of same concept. Ferrari is at its first.Sevach wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 19:00Gotta love those headlines "don't give up yet, Hamilton may still have a shot".
It will be for "us" next year.
The good part is that the car is consistent on both softs and hards, and doesn't have much deg, the basics work.
Now we need to extract more pace, lots of it.
Take a look at the setup see if we could play more risky in some areas...
And get that wind tunnel to work.
Sainz finished 25 s behind Max which translates to 0.45 s deficit per lap. Of course Max could have pushed more, but as he didn’t we can’t for sure know what the gap would have been in the end, so I wonder how you came up with 0.7-1 s. Also, don’t forget that Charles, the clearly faster driver of both, had issues.
As a Ferrari supporter, one ends up having some 18-19 races a years. All others have 23-24. That's really pissing off.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 19:06Leclerc again having issues with the car suggests something is very wrong with the people working on it, this is either general incompetence all of a sudden or foul play. There were PU issues and strategy incompetence in 2022, but these random issues with his car started with Bahrain 23, then completely botched setup in Barcelona 23 and then the Brasil 23 disaster... So 4th time in a year, that's not a coincidence. He's done an amazing job to adapt to it in the second part of the race and scavenge P4 and 12 more points than last year.
Very good race from Sainz, very poor start. Again! If he held P4 at the start, he would have had a cleaner 1st stint and an easy P2 with the trouble Leclerc had. He's shown very good pace in the race and we can only speculate if Leclerc would have been 10s or 15s ahead in the race without the brake issues. P2 and P3 were very much possible. Overall, despite of these missed chances, not too many points were lost. Vasseur will likely focus on this in his statement, but I can only imagine his fury at the trouble Leclerc was once again put to.
Realistically, Max had an easy race since Leclerc clearly had big issues from the very first corner, so we'll never know if there was a potential for a win in this race. Sainz' pace on Hards was very good, but clearly lacking compared to Max. How much better could Leclerc have been? Hopefully Jeddah race goes without issues and we will find out.
The car was well ahead of Mercedes and others, so it's good to have that gap opened up right at the start. Sainz has cut the gap to Max in half compared to last year, which is a clear sign how much progress has been made. The team simply has to be absolutely perfect in Saudi Arabia if they want to get anywhere near Max in the race.
He deserves the zings he's getting lol.CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 18:59Also, what was that about Merc being ahead in race trim coming from Allison?
Carlos also had to contend with running behind a train in the first stint, and having to repass Charles and Russell.
It's hard to judge because Carlos was stuck on a train for most of the first stint.CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 19:03
Pace on softs requires some work. We were good on hards, within two-three tenths of RB, but on softs it was more like .6-.7.
They changed something around the left brake in parc ferme only on LEC's car. So maybe they already knew something was wrong.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 19:06Leclerc again having issues with the car suggests something is very wrong with the people working on it, this is either general incompetence all of a sudden or foul play. There were PU issues and strategy incompetence in 2022, but these random issues with his car started with Bahrain 23, then completely botched setup in Barcelona 23 and then the Brasil 23 disaster... So 4th time in a year, that's not a coincidence. He's done an amazing job to adapt to it in the second part of the race and scavenge P4 and 12 more points than last year.
Very good race from Sainz, very poor start. Again! If he held P4 at the start, he would have had a cleaner 1st stint and an easy P2 with the trouble Leclerc had. He's shown very good pace in the race and we can only speculate if Leclerc would have been 10s or 15s ahead in the race without the brake issues. P2 and P3 were very much possible. Overall, despite of these missed chances, not too many points were lost. Vasseur will likely focus on this in his statement, but I can only imagine his fury at the trouble Leclerc was once again put to.
Realistically, Max had an easy race since Leclerc clearly had big issues from the very first corner, so we'll never know if there was a potential for a win in this race. Sainz' pace on Hards was very good, but clearly lacking compared to Max. How much better could Leclerc have been? Hopefully Jeddah race goes without issues and we will find out.
The car was well ahead of Mercedes and others, so it's good to have that gap opened up right at the start. Sainz has cut the gap to Max in half compared to last year, which is a clear sign how much progress has been made. The team simply has to be absolutely perfect in Saudi Arabia if they want to get anywhere near Max in the race.
True. I was mainly looking at the second stint where Max was otherworldly and it was typically a second offLM10 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 19:09Sainz finished 25 s behind Max which translates to 0.45 s deficit per lap. Of course Max could have pushed more, but as he didn’t we can’t for sure know what the gap would have been in the end, so I wonder how you came up with 0.7-1 s. Also, don’t forget that Charles, the clearly faster driver of both, had issues.
They really do have a design/engineering team that can compete with RB or at worst is second best.