2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Xyz22 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 13:36
The more time goes on (especially after seeing MB performance in the first two races and in FP2), the more it's absolutely clear to me that the key to be competitive in this regulation cycle is having a stable platform working well in every condition (ride height etc.), even at the cost of (a lot) peak downforce. I specifically think the compromises are much different compared to the past in this area and Newey and his team were really the first trying to achieve this "concept", which paid off massively.

It seems that Ferrari got it right this year. Unfortunately, for many reasons, RB arrived there way earlier.
I think what should also be added is that a stable well organised teams is massive player in all of it too.
It's something Ferrari haven't really had in like forever.
I have been arguing for a long time that Ferrari had competence, at least competent individuals but lacked organisation.
I have always felt that they have people and have always had people that know/knew their stuff that were simply very poorly managed, based on the past 18 months or so it is something that is definitely changing under Vasseur.

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 14:36
SoulPancake13 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 14:25
Keep in mind guys that Australia is never really representative and that last year Sainz was only 0.2 slower than Max in the race.
100% agree, this doesn’t indicate the gap being closed to RB, only that POTENTIALLY a circuit that works better for the sf24
While I agree, I think it can also be argued that the current perceived gap to RB based on the opening two races is also not telling the truth, for me because Ferrari looked very conservative in the opening two races.
Not to mention they were both night races and also not representative.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 14:25
Keep in mind guys that Australia is never really representative and that last year Sainz was only 0.2 slower than Max in the race.
Nobody is suggesting that Ferrari have caught up to Red Bull overall when the cars haven't even changed.

Australia being a unique track is precisely why some people might have hope that Ferrari can compete for a win this weekend.

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JPBD1990 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 08:52
I shared the link in the race thread, but I don’t see Ferraris higher engine mode in the data… am I just dumb (yes, but someone that’s more technical please correct me)

https://x.com/f1debrief/status/1771061901855727825?s=46
Leclerc seems to be able to maintain a higher speed in all the corners. And it seems the Verstappen is opening up his DRS earlier than Leclerc.

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Can Ferrari run only one fast lap in Q1-Q2 to save more tyres for the race? I think the speed of SF24 will allow it, but not sure about how many compounds they should return to Pirelli after qualifying. Does it make any sense?

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jumpingfish wrote:Can Ferrari run only one fast lap in Q1-Q2 to save more tyres for the race? I think the speed of SF24 will allow it, but not sure about how many compounds they should return to Pirelli after qualifying. Does it make any sense?
There seems to be very little difference from medium to soft compared to usual. They will try to make their time with mediums in q1 and move to softs in q2/3.

Tire deg is perfect so I wouldn’t worry too much about tires with 1 fast lap on them.

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Comp with the SF 23 last year. No idea if the tyres are the same though.

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 14:43
SoulPancake13 wrote:Keep in mind guys that Australia is never really representative and that last year Sainz was only 0.2 slower than Max in the race.
Of course it is not, they are racing upside down after all
A good one :?: :)

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Xyz22 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 16:42
Comp with the SF 23 last year. No idea if the tyres are the same though.

https://i.ibb.co/4s3yGBd/Screenshot-202 ... -pixel.png
Pirelli brought degree softer compounds this year.

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Great balance and rotation.
Hopefully it will be the same in quali and in the race.

"Absolutely 0" porpoising / bouncing as well.

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That looks very nice indeed

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I feel validated that, from the eye test, the very first lap Charles did looked visually fast - the car was changing direction well, carrying good speed etc. The stopwatch at that time is totally inconclusive, of course, but Charles said the same and it's interesting how sometimes these observations can tell you a lot.

Not kidding myself that the gap is closed or that's it's necessarily anything more than track specific, but I wonder (hope may be a better word!) if they found anything in the analysis of the first two races' data that helped them sort out the rear/traction a bit better.

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Xyz22 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 17:51


Great balance and rotation.
Hopefully it will be the same in quali and in the race.

"Absolutely 0" porpoising / bouncing as well.
Watch how smooth Charles is/can be with the inputs. Hardly any correction required as the car is handling so well through the corners. Really impressive, compared to watching him wrestle the SF23 around circuits last year. He will no doubt have to be more aggressive come quali, but there really does seem a nice balance about this years car. Kudos Ferrari

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Pirrelli increased minimum front tire pressure by +1. Hopefully that doesn't impact the flow and setup for Ferrari.

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Interesting that Ferrari seems stronger in the lower speed stuff. After testing I could have sworn they said they still had understeer in the slower stuff and it remained a focus. Fixed? Or have I misremembered that?