2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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If Max car is understeery, he’s going to have a much easier time applying traction with steering but those square corners will be more challenging. I’m sure he’s going to get it together in quali, but his fronts will not feel too well, which would explain how they looked fairly bad after just 2 fast laps in fp1.

I think Ferrari seemed to have chosen a slightly less loaded rear wing, but I’ve only seen the image from Fabrega, not sure if they changed the wings.

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dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 16:48
If Max car is understeery, he’s going to have a much easier time applying traction with steering but those square corners will be more challenging. I’m sure he’s going to get it together in quali, but his fronts will not feel too well, which would explain how they looked fairly bad after just 2 fast laps in fp1.

I think Ferrari seemed to have chosen a slightly less loaded rear wing, but I’ve only seen the image from Fabrega, not sure if they changed the wings.
We need to qualify ahead of the McLarens at all cost :D

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Both starting from the clean side of the grid, which should hopefully be an advantage. A good start and potentially the only ones on new mediums could get very interesting.

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Pretty poor showing in turn 10. Unexpected.

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Xyz22 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 17:01
dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 16:48
If Max car is understeery, he’s going to have a much easier time applying traction with steering but those square corners will be more challenging. I’m sure he’s going to get it together in quali, but his fronts will not feel too well, which would explain how they looked fairly bad after just 2 fast laps in fp1.

I think Ferrari seemed to have chosen a slightly less loaded rear wing, but I’ve only seen the image from Fabrega, not sure if they changed the wings.
We need to qualify ahead of the McLarens at all cost :D
I think the McLaren's will be sitting ducks on the straight if they are ahead.
That said I think you meant they could do without having to deal with a slower car between them and Red Bull.

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Xyz22 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 13:56
SoulPancake13 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 13:49
I saw that Charles was heavily impeded by Zhou on his final lap? What actually happened?
Zhou was simply slow. Leclerc wasn’t impeded but slowed a bit. His SQ3 was just messy because he lost the car in the outlap trying to be aggressive on tyres warm up and had to pit to fix the damage
Looking at f1 tempo data, I think Zhou messed up Charles more than first thought. Charles was 4.5 tenths up before catching up and then just bled time throughout the lap.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
Xyz22 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 13:56
SoulPancake13 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 13:49
I saw that Charles was heavily impeded by Zhou on his final lap? What actually happened?
Zhou was simply slow. Leclerc wasn’t impeded but slowed a bit. His SQ3 was just messy because he lost the car in the outlap trying to be aggressive on tyres warm up and had to pit to fix the damage
Looking at f1 tempo data, I think Zhou messed up Charles more than first thought. Charles was 4.5 tenths up before catching up and then just bled time throughout the lap.
If you look at the onboard, there was no visibility for charles at all in the last 3 corners. Zhou also cut a corner in s2 which probably didn’t help Charles focus either.

Edit: s3 has been where Charles built his laps here in China, both in dry and his first lap on wet were generally purple in s3.

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dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 19:39
SoulPancake13 wrote:
Xyz22 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 13:56


Zhou was simply slow. Leclerc wasn’t impeded but slowed a bit. His SQ3 was just messy because he lost the car in the outlap trying to be aggressive on tyres warm up and had to pit to fix the damage
Looking at f1 tempo data, I think Zhou messed up Charles more than first thought. Charles was 4.5 tenths up before catching up and then just bled time throughout the lap.
If you look at the onboard, there was no visibility for charles at all in the last 3 corners. Zhou also cut a corner in s2 which probably didn’t help Charles focus either.

Edit: s3 has been where Charles built his laps here in China, both in dry and his first lap on wet were generally purple in s3.
Either way, he seems to have better understood tyre warm up, dry laps looked pretty good to me, so hopefully no more rain this weekend and he can showcase the new understanding in the real qualy. Not a surprise both Red Bulls and Ferraris struggled with tyre warmup, bodes well for a dry sprint on a green track.

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Doesn't really matter. Unfortunately, the car was simply slow in these conditions.
We were significantly behind both McL and RB (Perez made a colossal mistake in the last corner while he was over 1s quicker than Max)

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Car doesn't look hooked up yet. Though Charles proving again he is prone to mistakes.

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Xyz22 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 20:10
Doesn't really matter. Unfortunately, the car was simply slow in these conditions.
We were significantly behind both McL and RB (Perez made a colossal mistake in the last corner while he was over 1s quicker than Max)
I don’t know about that - at the point Charles set his prior lap, he was 3rd and only 3 tenths off with a purple final sector. Everyone then got even quicker in their final laps and it seems like Charles was balked, without that it seems very likely he would at least have been in front of Max.

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f1316 wrote:
Xyz22 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 20:10
Doesn't really matter. Unfortunately, the car was simply slow in these conditions.
We were significantly behind both McL and RB (Perez made a colossal mistake in the last corner while he was over 1s quicker than Max)
I don’t know about that - at the point Charles set his prior lap, he was 3rd and only 3 tenths off with a purple final sector. Everyone then got even quicker in their final laps and it seems like Charles was balked, without that it seems very likely he would at least have been in front of Max.
Lando was 9th if his attempt hadn’t been reinstated, and said after seeing LEC spin he chilled down a bit during the outlap in a post qualifying interview.

Max lost control of the car in like 3 separate laps?

Perez made a big mistake in the last corner or was going to be much faster.

In all of this drivers had 8 minutes to figure it out. I would give props to Lewis and Lando for being the only 2 that really figured it out, the rest was less lucky with tire temp.

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Like all rainy sessions this was decided by tyre warmup. As F1 cars are meant to perform best when it's warm and dry, it is not meaningful at all to finish at the front in a 8 minutes long rainy session.
Ferrari will have the best deg once again and under normal circumstances end the race on Sunday right behind RedBull and clearly ahead of the rest.

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How is the weather looking for the sprint race?