2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[bauc]

Norris gets his ultimatum from McLaren: "There are five laps to go, the way to win a championship is not by yourself, it is with the team, you are going to need Oscar and you are going to need the team."

Difficult to argue with this. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

After this radio I start to want Norris to give the position.

Great result by the team, many points in ours hands.

We came from so far to this 1-2. Amazing!

Yeah you are right, at the start of last season, we were 2nd to last, at the start of this season we were 3rd team at best, and now we are in the fight with RBR for the WCC, that's crazy!

[djones]

Anybody who’s saying Norris should not have won is not a natural winner.

I mean that with respect. But if you don’t have a desire to win that is fine and I’m sure you are happy just competing in life as long as you had fun.

An F1 team is there to win. It’s literally their purpose in life. Norris has a crack at the championship. Only a fool would not make him finish ahead of his teammate, especially with Max further down and with a penalty pending.

[Slahinki]

Never in my life did I think I'd ever walk away from a McLaren 1-2 with a sense of bewilderment. Yet here I am.

Piastri doing a poor job of being rear gunner at the start, again. Alternatively Norris with a poor start, again. Or both. The incredibly weird strategy calls. Not prioritising the driver that actually has a shot at the title. Looking at how tilted Max was today, it's insanity to me to not capitalise on that. But oh well. Congrats on the 1-2, it's well deserved. And congrats to Osc on his first win, even if it's a bit of a weird one. If the rest of the season is more like this, the WCC is ours at least.

[Emag]

Anybody who’s saying Norris should not have won is not a natural winner.

I mean that with respect. But if you don’t have a desire to win that is fine and I’m sure you are happy just competing in life as long as you had fun.

An F1 team is there to win. It’s literally their purpose in life. Norris has a crack at the championship. Only a fool would not make him finish ahead of his teammate, especially with Max further down and with a penalty pending.

You don't ask drivers to swap a P1. Go back to any championship battle and let me know when was the last time a driver was asked to give up a victory to prioritize a championship battle at the midpoint of the season. This was Oscar's win to give up, in spite of how McLaren missmanaged the race to put it in the hands of Lando.

It should have never gone to that pointless drama on track. A normal strategy will have had drivers retain this finishing position and nobody would be having this conversation now.

[willmesquita]

McLaren, a team so used to being midfield they don’t know how to maximise points for a championship.

I pray Norris loses the championship by 7 points and they have to live with today forever.

That goes for Norris too for not growing a pair.

Nonsense

[saputra_25]

What is our prediction for spa? Last year was very painful race at Spa. Hopefully straight line speed is improving

[JRindt]

Just watched the GP. What an absolute eff up by the strategy team. I’ve been patient enough, but Whoever is incharge of making the decisions needs to go. They weren’t exactly setting the field on fire with strategy even before the team became front runners.

I mean, what would possess them to pit Lando first? And you can’t ask the driver who’s pulling a gap to concede the win. They just denied Lando the opportunity to fight for the win by pitting him first.

It isn’t fair to Oscar either. It’s his first GP win and he shouldn’t be feeling like it was donated by Lando. Just horrible race management.

[geogate]

people spouting such drivel.
They did pre decide how they would race each other - Norris was pitted first to give him track position against Hamilton. It is the teams decision, it was their call, and Norris was obliged to hand the position back.
The team played it right - Norris eventually did the right thing.
As Rosberg said to Stella after the race, dont involve the drivers in decision-making during the race - tell them what they are expected to do based on what has been clearly pre-agreed (which it clearly was).

[gshevlin]

The Constructors championship is what generates the big pile of extra money.
Financially, McLaren does not care which driver wins as long as they finish 1-2.
The drivers are employees. Highly paid, but still employees.
Lando is pissed off. He is a competitor. If he wasn't pissed off, I would be worried. However, the only way he will never be asked to do something like this for the team is if he has a Schumacher contract where the other driver is his valet. That isn't likely to happen.

[Dunlay]

Front row lockout! Hopefully they have a good strategy to block Max at the race start and box him rather than race each other.

Wow. A noob like me can understand what to do in the given situation, but McLaren let's their drivers fight each other and accept losing to Max at the start!

[Ben1980]

Just watched the GP. What an absolute eff up by the strategy team. I’ve been patient enough, but Whoever is incharge of making the decisions needs to go. They weren’t exactly setting the field on fire with strategy even before the team became front runners.

I mean, what would possess them to pit Lando first? And you can’t ask the driver who’s pulling a gap to concede the win. They just denied Lando the opportunity to fight for the win by pitting him first.

It isn’t fair to Oscar either. It’s his first GP win and he shouldn’t be feeling like it was donated by Lando. Just horrible race management.

Strategy was fine, it secured a 1 2 finish, and covered off any potential issues.

Lando wasn't fighting for the win if he ended up behind Leclerc and Hamilton anyway.

[PapayaFan481]

Just a theory, but McLaren have a third driver who I believe would actually be willing to help Lando beat Max. A former McLaren driver who seems genuinely pleased whenever McLaren win and who is leaving his current team at the end of the season. A drier who has no shortage of incidents with Max.

That's right. I genuinely believe Lewis would help Lando beat Max if the WDC becomes a more realistic possibility.

I also think that from this race onwards the team should prioritise Lando. Oscar can have is chance next season and I believe today will help convince him to play the team game. Red Bull are no longer the fastest team, Mercedes are mixing it up too, which means it is not unrealistic to expect that Lando can win a few more races with Max finishing off the podium AND if Max keeps making moves like Austria and today then it is only a matter of time before Max has a DNF. Plus he alread has a pending engine penalty to deal with.

The WCC is very, very possible. We could even be leading it in a couple of races time. The WDC is possible and the team SHOULD put all their efforts into giving Lando a chance. There is no guarantee that 2025 or beyond will see them in the same position.

[mwillems]

Just watched the GP. What an absolute eff up by the strategy team. I’ve been patient enough, but Whoever is incharge of making the decisions needs to go. They weren’t exactly setting the field on fire with strategy even before the team became front runners.

I mean, what would possess them to pit Lando first? And you can’t ask the driver who’s pulling a gap to concede the win. They just denied Lando the opportunity to fight for the win by pitting him first.

It isn’t fair to Oscar either. It’s his first GP win and he shouldn’t be feeling like it was donated by Lando. Just horrible race management.

They've done this several times before. Swapping unnecessarily, like when they did it to cover off an attack from Alonso that never materialised at Monza in 23.

I said at the time that it was ridiculous and unnecessary. Piastri gave up position to Norris and didn't get it back. It happened at Silverstone too, if I recall.

Team need to understand there are implications and that it also isn't all about the team. They also need to be clear before the pit if there is ever a genuine need to protect the teams points. And clarity should come before the pit, not after. And not done whenever they feel ready.

[Mansell89]

Fascinating to see how Spa goes, I think we should be far better than last year as I think we’ve got a much more efficient car.

We could potentially give Max something to think about at Zandvoort too!

[geogate]

how was it unnecessary? Hamilton may have got in front of Norris had Piastri pitted first. Piastri was under no threat, Norris was - thats why they pitted him first, which was after the point where they had agreed they would stop racing. Pitting Norris first secured a 1-2. Had Hamilton got ahead who knows if Norris could have got past him