2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[diffuser]

The thing is we have no idea what these guys are being paid. We don't know if they're getting paid scale above or below scale. We are making presumptions that Stroll had to bribe them to come. You're just making presumptions on top of presumptions.

If you're hiring someone in to a different job and you think they can do that job, then a raise isn't that expensive. If we take Fallows for example, he wasn't gonna be the TD at RBR, so it's fairly easy to get him to come for low TD $$$, as he is a new TD. it will be higher than he was being paid at RBR but lower that what Pierre Waché is getting paid. Now if you were gonna go out and get Pierre Waché, you have to pay him more than RBR is currently paying him unless you move him into another job. This is what they did with Cardile, they moved the Ferrari TD into a CTO job, which likely has a higher scale.

So i have no idea where you guys come off thinking that this is costing them $$$$$... Newey, is gonna get paid off the books. Of course 2 other of the above mentioned could be off the books too or unmentioned others.

[zoroastar]

It's sad Alonso isn't 33 years old.
Right here and now Aston won't fly, and probably next year either.

Newey is already secretly working whit some advice on 2024 car.
Source: secret.

are u kidding?

Look at Loic Serra, hes on gardaining leave,moving from mercedes to take cardilles job at ferrari. And hes been working with ferrari For the last couple of months. Not saying that newey is doing the same with aston, but it obviously happens. And serra is doing it without much worry of getting into any trouble from what has been posted in the media. Im sure newey would be doing it more privately of course.


The point is, we dont know how much, or little it takes to get the car more competitive. It could just take a few changes that the team are missing to put aston on the heels of the top 4. 25 aint gonna be a championship year, but it would be nice to fight for a podium or 2 haha

[-wkst-]

Newey is already secretly working whit some advice on 2024 car.
Source: secret.

are u kidding?

Look at Loic Serra, hes on gardaining leave,moving from mercedes to take cardilles job at ferrari. And hes been working with ferrari For the last couple of months. Not saying that newey is doing the same with aston, but it obviously happens. And serra is doing it without much worry of getting into any trouble from what has been posted in the media. Im sure newey would be doing it more privately of course.


The point is, we dont know how much, or little it takes to get the car more competitive. It could just take a few changes that the team are missing to put aston on the heels of the top 4. 25 aint gonna be a championship year, but it would be nice to fight for a podium or 2 haha

What are you talking?
Serra Starts working at Maranello in October, he is not part of the Ferrari team currently.

[zoroastar]

are u kidding?

Look at Loic Serra, hes on gardaining leave,moving from mercedes to take cardilles job at ferrari. And hes been working with ferrari For the last couple of months. Not saying that newey is doing the same with aston, but it obviously happens. And serra is doing it without much worry of getting into any trouble from what has been posted in the media. Im sure newey would be doing it more privately of course.


The point is, we dont know how much, or little it takes to get the car more competitive. It could just take a few changes that the team are missing to put aston on the heels of the top 4. 25 aint gonna be a championship year, but it would be nice to fight for a podium or 2 haha

What are you talking?
Serra Starts working at Maranello in October, he is not part of the Ferrari team currently.

What i said buddy. Hes rumoured to have been working behind the scenes with ferrari for over a month makng changes to their technical structure. If hes doing that, whats to stop him from sharing info about technical aspects of the car.

[zoroastar]

Maybe they do share knowledge to some extent during gardening leave, maybe they dont share much. It would be near impossible for anyone to know if they did. With f1 being as competitive as it is, youd have to be naive to think that it doesnt happen sometimes. If Aston show up in winter testing like they did in 23, i think we will have a pretty good idea that theres been something going on. That is, if newey in fact does sign with aston…

[-wkst-]

Look at Loic Serra, hes on gardaining leave,moving from mercedes to take cardilles job at ferrari. And hes been working with ferrari For the last couple of months. Not saying that newey is doing the same with aston, but it obviously happens. And serra is doing it without much worry of getting into any trouble from what has been posted in the media. Im sure newey would be doing it more privately of course.


The point is, we dont know how much, or little it takes to get the car more competitive. It could just take a few changes that the team are missing to put aston on the heels of the top 4. 25 aint gonna be a championship year, but it would be nice to fight for a podium or 2 haha

What are you talking?
Serra Starts working at Maranello in October, he is not part of the Ferrari team currently.

What i said buddy. Hes rumoured to have been working behind the scenes with ferrari for over a month makng changes to their technical structure. If hes doing that, whats to stop him from sharing info about technical aspects of the car.

You wrote it that way like Serra goes in and out already at Maranello and everyone knows it. „Rumoured to work already behind the scenes“ and share infos is maybe the usual stuff…

Marko said to Schmidt (AMuS) for example that the rear of the 2024 McLaren is a copy of the 2023 RBR. Consequence of the move from Marshall, although he started working at January 2024.

[-wkst-]

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... udget-cap/

Nothing really new, also Schmidt speculates that employees could get shares to save money for the cap (but really just wild speculations).

About ALO:

Fernando Alonso made everything right in the review.
On paper it's the chance of his life time to win again.
Once get the feeling that he's given himself a little break currently because the car is not good enough for podium places. It seems like the old warrior wants to save all his energy for his last big battle.

[KimiRai]

An Aston Martin source told BBC Sport that Newey has made a long-term commitment to the team, said to be a five-year contract worth up to a possible £30m a year, including bonuses and add-ons.

The deal will be announced at a news conference organised by Aston Martin at their F1 base at Silverstone on Tuesday.

Newey, who in April negotiated an early exit from his contract as Red Bull chief technical officer, will start work in early March.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/arti ... gqd8lz9g1o

Early March? If I'm not wrong other sources previously said April or after Q1, so if true that's a little better

[KimiRai]

Lawrence Stroll will sell between 20% to 25% of the F1 team to US based investment funds

https://news.sky.com/story/aston-martin ... s-13210878

[AR3-GP]

Lawrence Stroll will sell between 20% to 25% of the F1 team to US based investment funds

https://news.sky.com/story/aston-martin ... s-13210878

He's going to recoup a lot of his investment. He bought this team when the sport was at a low and probably for not very much. The team itself appreciated and it's worth over a billion dollars now. It's actually incredible how well this worked for him, and to end up with Newey in the end. Lawrence is a genius

[-wkst-]

An Aston Martin source told BBC Sport that Newey has made a long-term commitment to the team, said to be a five-year contract worth up to a possible £30m a year, including bonuses and add-ons.

The deal will be announced at a news conference organised by Aston Martin at their F1 base at Silverstone on Tuesday.

Newey, who in April negotiated an early exit from his contract as Red Bull chief technical officer, will start work in early March.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/arti ... gqd8lz9g1o

Early March? If I'm not wrong other sources previously said April or after Q1, so if true that's a little better

Schmidt also writes „in the course of Q1“. Maybe 6th September + 6 months…

Stroll will make a hell of a deal once he sold the complete company.

[NAPI10]

Lawrence Stroll will sell between 20% to 25% of the F1 team to US based investment funds

https://news.sky.com/story/aston-martin ... s-13210878

He's going to recoup a lot of his investment. He bought this team when the sport was at a low and probably for not very much. The team itself appreciated and it's worth over a billion dollars now. It's actually incredible how well this worked for him, and to end up with Newey in the end. Lawrence is a genius

That's his core competency. He built an organization & make money by divesting. Getting Newey on-bord is part of building ‘Company Valuation’.
It will be interesting to see the valuation of AM after Newey on-board.

[diffuser]

Lawrence Stroll will sell between 20% to 25% of the F1 team to US based investment funds

https://news.sky.com/story/aston-martin ... s-13210878

He's going to recoup a lot of his investment. He bought this team when the sport was at a low and probably for not very much. The team itself appreciated and it's worth over a billion dollars now. It's actually incredible how well this worked for him, and to end up with Newey in the end. Lawrence is a genius

That's his core competency. He built an organization & make money by divesting. Getting Newey on-bord is part of building ‘Company Valuation’.
It will be interesting to see the valuation of AM after Newey on-board.

Don't think that money goes all to him. He has controling interest in AM F1. He doesn't own all of it.

[NAPI10]

He's going to recoup a lot of his investment. He bought this team when the sport was at a low and probably for not very much. The team itself appreciated and it's worth over a billion dollars now. It's actually incredible how well this worked for him, and to end up with Newey in the end. Lawrence is a genius

That's his core competency. He built an organization & make money by divesting. Getting Newey on-bord is part of building ‘Company Valuation’.
It will be interesting to see the valuation of AM after Newey on-board.

Don't think that money goes all to him. He has controling interest in AM F1. He doesn't own all of it.

It will go to consortium he built with close business partners. That's the modus operandi for all his deals.

[zoroastar]

i think i heard today that the net worth is 1.5 billion. and its only going to go up in the short term i would think. f1 isnt like it was a few years ago, where teams were struggling to make ends meet. for better or for worse, every team is making a profit just from being there. so teams like Andretti have to wait forever to even get a chance, and alpine can half ass their way along forever. until they start to realize how bad it makes the brand look. it is crazy that stroll came in and spent a few hundreds of millions and is still going to probably turn a proffit though haha