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Nugnes had reported some time ago that the request for Cardile was made by Newey himself. On the contrary The Race's latest video on Newey says the signing of Cardile was made before Newey.-wkst- wrote: ↑11 Sep 2024, 20:13Schmidt in his video blog thinks that Newey will just work on the 2026 car, because it’s already too late for the 2025 car. He furthermore believes that Newey can still help for 2025 at track, because he seems to be very good in translating driver’s comments into a better set up, finding the right window. Even Marko said to Schmidt that RBR would have less problems currently with Newey, because he would be a big help to find the right set up.
He furthermore believes that Newey (the great old school designer) and Cardile (the great organizer) could be a very good match.
He added that Stroll should stop throwing mobile phones around in his anger (Imola), because Newey hates such a behavior.
I wonder if there is some kind of internal prejudice because of the pink Mercedes saga and how they got mocked for doing that which makes them not want to ‘copy’ another team. Of course this is not my expertise at all, , but thinking of my own work I cannot really see how taking inspiration from someone would be a bad thing. You would have to be very full of yourself to believe that there arent brilliant minds in other teams who may come up with better solutions than yours. Newey is the first one to copy others if an idea is good, the red notebook of his is not just his own ideas.Rikrikrik wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024, 16:36Carlos Miquel, the spanish journalist said . AM is divided in two teams again, like last year ( where factory team had an ideias to development and the track team had other ideias) but now, some people would like develope their own ideias and the other side would like copy the other teams, specially mclaren , and Alonso's "spying" the mclaren's floor was a message to the team saying " i prefer u copy the other cars".
What if, for example,the track team tells the factory guys that they cannot run the car as low as the wind tunnel tells them to? What if the PHDs are wrong and data is misleading them? Newey is a very good race engineer too, does that mean he's not good enough?diffuser wrote: ↑28 Aug 2024, 00:23The track team don't develop, they can say whatever they want but they can't make parts. The track teams opinion matters to as point. In the end the track team telling the factory how to do things is equivalent to me telling the God how the world should be.
It is my opinion that, for the most part, the PHDs are in the factory and all the guys not good enough to be in the factor are part of the race team.
This is the definition of arrogance.I dont think it is good to ignore concerns from a part of the team especially when you keep failing and failing, but maybe Im wrong.
Your making shiit up now...I'd listen to that all day long...but spanish journalists basically said that the track team was trying to dictate to the factory, how they should develop the car. Now that's ARROGANCE!KimiRai wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 01:58I wonder if there is some kind of internal prejudice because of the pink Mercedes saga and how they got mocked for doing that, which makes them not want to ‘copy’ another team. Obviously this is not my expertise at all but I cannot really see how taking inspiration from someone would be a "bad" thing. You would have to be very full of yourself to believe that there arent brilliant minds in other teams who may come up with better solutions than yours. Newey is the first one to copy others if an idea is good, the red notebook of his is not just his own ideas.Rikrikrik wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024, 16:36Carlos Miquel, the spanish journalist said . AM is divided in two teams again, like last year ( where factory team had an ideias to development and the track team had other ideias) but now, some people would like develope their own ideias and the other side would like copy the other teams, specially mclaren , and Alonso's "spying" the mclaren's floor was a message to the team saying " i prefer u copy the other cars".
What if the track team tells the factory guys that they cannot run the car as low as the wind tunnel tells them to? What if the PHDs and data are wrong? Newey is a very good race engineer too, does that mean he's not good enough? He says not to trust tools so much and he likes to listen to driver feedback a lot.diffuser wrote: ↑28 Aug 2024, 00:23The track team don't develop, they can say whatever they want but they can't make parts. The track teams opinion matters to as point. In the end the track team telling the factory how to do things is equivalent to me telling the God how the world should be.
It is my opinion that, for the most part, the PHDs are in the factory and all the guys not good enough to be in the factor are part of the race team.
This is the definition of arrogance. I think Newey would have fired you
What if they are right? Its not out of the realm of possibilities but you make it seem like it is. Maybe in the previous regs where you could just bolt on downforce and it would stick that would be enough, but now it's much more complicated and what the car actually does on track matters a lot (because you cannot simulate porpoising in the tunnel etc)
Yeah we've seen many teams have correlation issues between the simulator/wind tunnel and the real world. I think these cars are complex and sensitive to many things which cant always be captured with tools. Mercedes with their doomed zero sidepods, AM with their upgrades, VCarb with theirs and even Red Bull seem to think they were led down a wrong path by simulation results.KimiRai wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 02:55What if they are right? It's not out of the realm of possibilities but you make it seem like it is. Maybe in the previous regs where you could just bolt on downforce and it would stick that would be enough, but it's clear that it's much more complicated now and what the car actually does on track matters a lot (because you cannot simulate porpoising in the tunnel etc)
But I must insist that I have no clue, I just repeat what I read elsewhere. Hopefully Newey has the answers to this.
McLaren in paper do not have as many great engineers but they are a very well run team. Andrea Stella has been able to organise their group and give responsibilities to everyone like Ross Brawn did.peewon wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 03:58Although both have an engineering background and around the same ears of experience, Stella has risen through the ranks in F1 only whereas before becoming TP of AM Krack's highest position was chief engineer and that too back in 2007, IIRC. Thats an absence of almost 14 years from F1.
Theres no way Krack will feel equally confident as Stella in making decisions or specially going against opinions of people who have more intimate experience with F1. But he seems to be levelheaded in his assessments usually. I jt dont think he has the gravitas to make bold decisions or maybe the personality.
As we've seen with RB/AMR/Merc, the track team has to deal with the imaginary performance that the factory developed. It is not arrogance. The track doesn't lie. A factory which doesn't listen to the trackside team? Now that is arrogance.
That guy has a new lease on life. Well done Stroll landing the big fish. Wow. 
