2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[diffuser]

I see that in the last 10 laps despite being on older Hards Alonso was the 3rd fastest driver on track.

Just goes to show you how many drivers were just bringing it home. While Albon was doing everything possible to catch Alonso.

Well Piastri, Lecerc and Perez were all pushing for the win. Alonso must of gently brought the temp up in his Hards, I thought Albons car was faster plus he came out just behind Alonso on a fresh set of Mediums. Dunno how Alonso did that? I guess thats why the elite drivers get the big money.
Can only imagine the season he'd have in the 2024 Mclaren, i'd bet my farm he would be a lot closer to Max, Lando has let Max off the hook a few times down to errors or blunders in races he should of won. Lando does have raw pace,but lacks the killer instinct of a Alonso. No way would Alonso Let Piastri pass him on the outside of turn 1 in Monza, Alonso wouldnt of given him room.

Lap	40	        41	        42	        43	        44	        45	        46	        47	        48	        49
        ========        ========        ========        ========        ========        ========        ========        ========        ========        ======== 
LeClerc	01:47.49	01:47.91	01:47.98	01:47.61	01:47.07	01:47.91	01:47.74	01:47.86	01:48.39	01:48.63
Perez	01:47.61	01:47.09	01:47.14	01:47.96	01:47.43	01:47.57	01:47.01	01:47.64	01:48.30	01:48.45
Sainz	01:46.96	01:47.46	01:46.93	01:47.27	01:47.08	01:47.26	01:46.87	01:46.93	01:48.12	01:48.44
Alonso	01:47.72	01:47.96	01:47.35	01:47.49	01:47.47	01:47.50	01:47.57	01:47.35	01:47.06	01:47.15
Albon	01:47.61	01:47.95	01:47.21	01:46.95	01:47.04	01:47.39	01:47.59	01:47.57	01:47.15	01:47.35

[jofs89]

Updated this thing with the last two races.
https://i.imgur.com/cdgFkVV.png

That does the vertical axis represent? % from pole?

[quincalla]

Updated this thing with the last two races.
https://i.imgur.com/cdgFkVV.png

That does the vertical axis represent? % from pole?

% to fastest race pace on the same strategy.

[-wkst-]

Miquel tweeted that there will be no perfomance updates for Singapore, just circuit specific stuff.

[Rikrikrik]

3 months until they bring other updates, and i think they tried to introduce those upgrade in Singapore, so, unfortunetely they cant, they would have a month to study data and improve that if they put on the car this wekend. Sadly i dont expect to much after last year and until now, i see the future, bring the updates to Austin, be P10 and P12 in the Qualy and say it " we need learn about the upgrades" i dont trust anymore.

[jofs89]

Updated this thing with the last two races.
https://i.imgur.com/cdgFkVV.png

That does the vertical axis represent? % from pole?

% to fastest race pace on the same strategy.

Thanks. Interesting.

[KimiRai]

Austin it is then, like last year. It is a sprint weekend but at least parc ferme rules are a bit less restrictive now.

[KimiRai]

It’s ironic that, in 2020, Max’s talent was a contributory cause to the problem we had,” he remarked.

“He has an ability to control this sort of instability that would be impossible for some others. We know that sometimes, making a car on the edge in this way can create a quicker car – and you don’t realise you went in the wrong direction because you are still extracting more lap time from the car.

“But you don’t realise at first it’s only because he has so much talent. So you keep going in this direction but you go too far and it takes you a few months to come back from that and realise you’d gone in the wrong direction.

“The system is so big that to rethink the aero surfaces of the car and remake them, it was a long and painful process.

Very interesting. Something similar has also been said in the past about drivers like Alonso who have the ability to drive around problems, which makes it more difficult to recognise what these problems are. In a way, they are too good for their own good. AM then said that's why Lance's feedback was important (which may be PR, but considering Checo was right, it makes some sense).

[zoroastar]

It’s ironic that, in 2020, Max’s talent was a contributory cause to the problem we had,” he remarked.

“He has an ability to control this sort of instability that would be impossible for some others. We know that sometimes, making a car on the edge in this way can create a quicker car – and you don’t realise you went in the wrong direction because you are still extracting more lap time from the car.

“But you don’t realise at first it’s only because he has so much talent. So you keep going in this direction but you go too far and it takes you a few months to come back from that and realise you’d gone in the wrong direction.

“The system is so big that to rethink the aero surfaces of the car and remake them, it was a long and painful process.

Very interesting. Something similar has also been said in the past about drivers like Alonso who have the ability to drive around problems, which makes it more difficult to recognise what these problems are. In a way, they are too good for their own good. AM then said that's why Lance's feedback was important (which may be PR, but considering Checo was right, it makes some sense).

that was the reason alonso was saying they needed lance back with his broken wrist last year in testing.

[Nikosar]

Very interesting. Something similar has also been said in the past about drivers like Alonso who have the ability to drive around problems, which makes it more difficult to recognise what these problems are. In a way, they are too good for their own good. AM then said that's why Lance's feedback was important (which may be PR, but considering Checo was right, it makes some sense).

that was the reason alonso was saying they needed lance back with his broken wrist last year in testing.

Has anyone ever heard a Lance giving a feedback ? He never, ever provides feedback. After the last qualifying, he was asked three questions, none of which he responded to. Look at Piastri, Leclerc, and so on. They demonstrate a deep comprehension of the car's behavior following FP, Qualy, or the race.

All we ever heard in terms of feedback is :"tricky week-end," "hard to drive," "good sessions," and "we will see."

Nothing against him and we know that Lance is capable of finishing on the podium or even fight for pole and wins when he has a fast car like the pink merceds at racing one team, but It's difficult to say if he develops more in the f1 debriefing room with the engineers.

[Nikosar]

That literally shows nothing. Keep on being bitter.

Look how much the mclaren's rear wing flex in high speed too. Front wing can be flexible? ohh OK now we have the rear wing flexible. Has anyone ever seen this
https://x.com/ElReyGuiri/status/1835317596549189841

You was right, it is like a mini DRS as the instagram post is saying.

It is like red bull 2021 flex wing and the FIA at the time banned it so they should do the same

This is why Leclerc with DRS couldn’t pass Piastri

It's likely that you was unable to notice it or comprehend it but following Red Bull's complaint, the MCL38's flap edges are not permitted to bend on the straight.

McLaren will be forced to modify their rear wing even if they passed static tests.

[diffuser]

Very interesting. Something similar has also been said in the past about drivers like Alonso who have the ability to drive around problems, which makes it more difficult to recognise what these problems are. In a way, they are too good for their own good. AM then said that's why Lance's feedback was important (which may be PR, but considering Checo was right, it makes some sense).

that was the reason alonso was saying they needed lance back with his broken wrist last year in testing.

Has anyone ever heard a Lance giving a feedback ? He never, ever provides feedback. After the last qualifying, he was asked three questions, none of which he responded to. Look at Piastri, Leclerc, and so on. They demonstrate a deep comprehension of the car's behavior following FP, Qualy, or the race.

All we ever heard in terms of feedback is :"tricky week-end," "hard to drive," "good sessions," and "we will see."

Nothing against him and we know that Lance is capable of finishing on the podium or even fight for pole and wins when he has a fast car like the pink merceds at racing one team, but It's difficult to say if he develops more in the f1 debriefing room with the engineers.

Feed back would given in the debrief with the team after whatever session.

[diffuser]

Alonso pitted after his first hotlap on softs and had them add .4 to the front wing. His 2nd hotlap was better but obviously on used tires.

[FNTC]

Has anyone ever heard a Lance giving a feedback ? He never, ever provides feedback. After the last qualifying, he was asked three questions, none of which he responded to. Look at Piastri, Leclerc, and so on. They demonstrate a deep comprehension of the car's behavior following FP, Qualy, or the race.

All we ever heard in terms of feedback is :"tricky week-end," "hard to drive," "good sessions," and "we will see."

Nothing against him and we know that Lance is capable of finishing on the podium or even fight for pole and wins when he has a fast car like the pink merceds at racing one team, but It's difficult to say if he develops more in the f1 debriefing room with the engineers.

To me Lance just looks like he hates doing interviews and press conferences, but they force them to do them, so he gives as little and unenthusiastic responses as he can. I am sure he is different when he explains how the car behaves behind closed doors, since he benefits from it if they understand what he says.

[diffuser]

Has anyone ever heard a Lance giving a feedback ? He never, ever provides feedback. After the last qualifying, he was asked three questions, none of which he responded to. Look at Piastri, Leclerc, and so on. They demonstrate a deep comprehension of the car's behavior following FP, Qualy, or the race.

All we ever heard in terms of feedback is :"tricky week-end," "hard to drive," "good sessions," and "we will see."

Nothing against him and we know that Lance is capable of finishing on the podium or even fight for pole and wins when he has a fast car like the pink merceds at racing one team, but It's difficult to say if he develops more in the f1 debriefing room with the engineers.

To me Lance just looks like he hates doing interviews and press conferences, but they force them to do them, so he gives as little and unenthusiastic responses as he can. I am sure he is different when he explains how the car behaves behind closed doors, since he benefits from it if they understand what he says.

I'm sure it doesn't help to want to do interviews when you're always getting beat by your team mate. That can get old...." So lance what happened this time? "