mwillems wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 17:24
Macklaren wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 14:41
bananapeel23 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 12:55
Ferrari qualifying out of position really flattered McLaren. This win wouldn't have been anywhere near as dominant if Leclerc had been in P2.
Was McLaren the fastest in the race? Probably.
Was Norris 1 second per lap faster than the competition on the mediums because the McLaren had an extra second of pace over every other team? Almost certainly not.
Just like Ferrari taking a punt on strategy flattered them in Monza.
It's interesting that rivals thought Lando was pushing too hard at the start when he came on the radio and said he was "pace 6". Similarly when Charles put in the fastest lap, Lando said on the risk he couldn't match that only to go 1 sec faster on the next lap and take it back. I think he had plenty of pace in hand
The harder the tyre, the closer the performance. Mediums would still have seen the Mclaren drop the Ferrari. But even on hards, pace was comparable with the Ferrari, but Lando wasn't pushing. Quite the opposite, he'd been told just to bring the car home. Charles was trying to get a move on and had 6 lap fresher hards with a tyre delta and less laps to do in the race than on Lando's car. And yet still, he was only able to go a little faster than Lando.
Ferrari was indeed out of position at the start of the race, but was probably around the right position come the end.
I take this post from yooogurt in the Ferrari thread.
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free air pace
Charles Lando
40 +0.29 1:37:194
41 1:36:166 +0.4
42 +0.86 1:36:404
43 1:35:849 +0.76
44 1:35:639 +0.64
45 1:35:716 +1.21
46 1:35:371 +0.58
47 1:35:758 +0.81
48 +0.87 1:34:925
49 +0.19 1:36:060
50 +1.22 1:36:311
51 1:36:424 +0.18
52 1:36:020 +0.17
53 1:36:099 +0.34
54 1:36:454 +0.3
55 1:36:560 +0.23
56 1:36:497 +0.7
57 1:36:802 +2.05
58 1:37:510 +0.22
59 +1.27 1:36:948
60 +1.53 1:36:631
61 +1.51 1:36:820
62 +0.8 1:37:922
48-50 and 59-62 - fighting mercs.
Lando ofk did not attack to the maximum, but clearly not a second slower than he could drive.
It's obvious to me that we should have fought for the win, and the expectations of the drivers are not random, but unfortunately we failed in Q3.
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Is Lando a little slower?
He is actually a lot slower, taking into account only the laps of Leclerc in free air.
Lando’s tyres were older, but Leclerc had to battle cars so basically taking life out of the tyres; Lando himself said in the press conference that he pushed flat out almost in the whole race.
Also, how did you come to the conclusion that Mclaren would drop Ferrari on Medium tyres?
I don’t see any evidence in any data, as we don’t have any.