2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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organic wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 00:47
djos wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 00:45
RedBull definitely fired the wrong driver! There’s no way in hell Daniel would be 1 second slower than Max!
Youre right it'd be more! Realistically they are looking for someone better than Perez but more consistent than Ricciardo to go alongside max. If Tsunoda/Lawson aren't that either then I suspect they'll turn to a driver outside RB like Russell
Not likely, Daniel only gets faster when you give him a better car. Daniel was doing a better job than Perez in the RB in the first half of the season, despite the car being a dog!
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Great driving by Max. Watched his lap closely, amazing stuff in s1, right on the limit in the S section. Its still only sprint qualy. Now please dont change the setup on saturday.
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avantman wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 00:48
djos wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 00:45
RedBull definitely fired the wrong driver! There’s no way in hell Daniel would be 1 second slower than Max!
He was 0.9s slower than Max in Mexico once on a much shorter race track, which would be more than one sec on such longer track as COTA. So, its wholly possible.
Was that the weekend his Renault PU went bang?
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2024 WDC is now locked barring any random reliability issue / disaster.
Car is ok and Norris keeps making mistakes.

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I just had a look into telemetry. Ver was fastest and faster than everyone in top 5 in T19, and as fast as others at worst in T20. Wasn't conservative there at all, precise rather. Being 15cm wider on the exit doesnt gain you a whole lot of laptime in such corner. Norris telemetry looks particularly horrible through T19. Looks super conservative indeed to put it mildly. Lost pole there.
Ham was almost 3 tenths up on Max coming into T12 where he got Yellow flag and made a mistake after. Would've been an easy pole otherwise.

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avantman wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 01:06
I just had a look into telemetry. Ver was fastest and faster than everyone in top 5 in T19, and as fast as others at worst in T20. Wasn't conservative there at all, precise rather. Being 15cm wider on the exit doesnt gain you a whole lot of laptime in such corner. Norris telemetry looks particularly horrible through T19. Looks super conservative indeed to put it mildly. Lost pole there.
Ham was almost 3 tenths up on Max coming into T12 where he got Yellow flag and made a mistake after. Would've been an easy pole otherwise.
The gain doesn't come from the "15cm wider". The gain comes from 'braking as late as possible for the entry into the 90 degree turn' - say the conservative way is to brake 20m earlier than the others who are pushing to the limit. At something like 250kph, 20m is approx 0.2s. That's where the delta really sits. If despite the conservatism, Max is gaining time over others who are really pushing to the limit in T19, that can only mean : (a) others are sliding mid-corner and/or (b) they have lower speed coming into T19 because of poorer exit from previous corner.

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venkyhere wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 01:17

The gain doesn't come from the "15cm wider". The gain comes from 'braking as late as possible for the entry into the 90 degree turn' - say the conservative way is to brake 20m earlier than the others who are pushing to the limit
Nonsense! Complete and utter. Lando braked later than Max into T19 and got trashed overall. Just go and study the telemetry, theory is not enough. Braking late doesnt make you go faster through 200+kph corner.
and yeah, if stepped on the throttle a tiny bit earlier, he would naturally went a bit wider on the exit gaining time, just not that much as some believe. That's it. T19 isn't about late braking, it's about stable platform and weight transfer.