2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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search wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 18:00
Sergej wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 17:30
why did Max back off on the straight ? anyway this weekend Ferrari don't seem able to steal points from Lando...it'll be bad.
Marko said he backed off to save the tires for later on.

About the pace, he didn't sound too confident, with issues both in slow and/or fast corners. To him, Ferrari looked much faster during the long run, assuming that they were on a similar fuel load.
No need to push the car and engine when there is a penalty for him. He needs to optimise his race setup...mclaren look very strong and I don't think ferrari are going to steal points from them. Max as always needs to be peerless in race trim. Brazil throws up a very odd weekend every now and then...SC'S, rain...could land him a win.

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I didn't really have the impression that anyone looked really good, tbh.

Verstappen's long run was a bit of an odd one as well, with him suddenly speeding up by 1s ten+ laps into it.

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search wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 18:26
I didn't really have the impression that anyone looked really good, tbh.

Verstappen's long run was a bit of an odd one as well, with him suddenly speeding up by 1s ten+ laps into it.
Body language of Max's car looked good through 6-7-8-9.
Wasn't able to spot proper footage showing the journey through 10-11-12 (where all the laptime is sitting)

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venkyhere wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 18:39
search wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 18:26
I didn't really have the impression that anyone looked really good, tbh.

Verstappen's long run was a bit of an odd one as well, with him suddenly speeding up by 1s ten+ laps into it.
Body language of Max's car looked good through 6-7-8-9.
Wasn't able to spot proper footage showing the journey through 10-11-12 (where all the laptime is sitting)
also Perez was quick from the start (although not anymore in the end), which is usually a good sign.

I'd be surprised if Verstappen doesn't end up fighting for the "pole" today, which at least would put him in a good position to defend his points lead in the sprint.

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search wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 18:00
Sergej wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 17:30
why did Max back off on the straight ? anyway this weekend Ferrari don't seem able to steal points from Lando...it'll be bad.
Marko said he backed off to save the tires for later on.

About the pace, he didn't sound too confident, with issues both in slow and/or fast corners. To him, Ferrari looked much faster during the long run, assuming that they were on a similar fuel load.
Leclerc was almost certainly doing a low fuel run. He went out and set a new PB on used mediums, then did a cool lap and then continued with a race run.

I thought Max looked decent. No signs of massive deg which has been the main problem for the RB recently. Also think he was carrying more fuel for a proper race run.

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it will be better to go the seaside this weekend...

hope they setup the car massively for the race

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Max will finish P5 in the sprint and the GP. Norris will win both.
A lion must kill its prey.

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according to Marko, they are losing most of the time in turn 4 and 9, McLaren is in another league. The bumpy track is a big problem, and he doesn't see a chance to fight them. Beating Leclerc in the sprint may be possible, in the race more likely not.

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Sergej wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:26
it will be better to go the seaside this weekend...

hope they setup the car massively for the race
Red bull don’t have the luxury of race setups, their aim is to be annoying and if you’re starting 2-3 places behind Norris then it’s worthless, not to sound negative.

The fact the car cannot deal with track surfaces let alone curbs massively worries me. How they’ve got from the most dominant car of all time to this in the space of a season with no reg changes baffles me still

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- F1 technical is tremendously slow and sporadic this weekend.
- F1-tempo doesn't have data uploaded.

But as I expected the two medium speed 90 degree turns - 4 and 12, is paricularly weak, compared to McLaren. The only place where the car is better is the Senna esses. But that doesn't contribute much to laptime.
It is going to be worse delta in race trim.
Redbull should forget about McLaren this weekend and aim for P3 podium spot in sprint as well as race. Might be possible, with changing weather and Max's skill to squeeze everything out of the car. Ferrari race pace is a big threat, especially with high deg on a slippery track.

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Qatar is our only saving circuit with lots of medium-high speed corners. Its hard to watch this, Max cant fight with that car, end of the story. The gap could be less than 30 points with 3 races to go. Really sad, dont know what to say anymore.

Our only hope is Ferrari, really hoping they can win again and take the points away from Mclaren.

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I knew it was gonna be bad on this track. Based on past few races ferrari is faster in race trim than they are in quali so only P5 is a real possibility.

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Vettel165 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:53
Qatar is our only saving circuit with lots of medium-high speed corners. Its hard to watch this, Max cant fight with that car, end of the story. The gap could be less than 30 points with 3 races to go. Really sad, dont know what to say anymore.

Our only hope is Ferrari, really hoping they can win again and take the points away from Mclaren.
Don't get your hopes up for Qatar. While it does have some very high speed corners which will favour RB, its got much more medium speed ones which will massively benefit mclaren. Basically RB20 is only good in 230+ kmh corners and thats it.
Mclaren was already fastest in qatar last year, this year i expect them to dominate.

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The best hope is that the thunderstorms on Sunday mean the medical helicopter cannot fly.
A lion must kill its prey.

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It says's 100% precipitation for sunday, and 70% for saturday. Let's hope in the rain Super Max can do miracles and win with inferior car.