2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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search wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 18:00
Sergej wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 17:30
why did Max back off on the straight ? anyway this weekend Ferrari don't seem able to steal points from Lando...it'll be bad.
Marko said he backed off to save the tires for later on.

About the pace, he didn't sound too confident, with issues both in slow and/or fast corners. To him, Ferrari looked much faster during the long run, assuming that they were on a similar fuel load.
Leclerc was almost certainly doing a low fuel run. He went out and set a new PB on used mediums, then did a cool lap and then continued with a race run.

I thought Max looked decent. No signs of massive deg which has been the main problem for the RB recently. Also think he was carrying more fuel for a proper race run.

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it will be better to go the seaside this weekend...

hope they setup the car massively for the race

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Max will finish P5 in the sprint and the GP. Norris will win both.
A lion must kill its prey.

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according to Marko, they are losing most of the time in turn 4 and 9, McLaren is in another league. The bumpy track is a big problem, and he doesn't see a chance to fight them. Beating Leclerc in the sprint may be possible, in the race more likely not.

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Sergej wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:26
it will be better to go the seaside this weekend...

hope they setup the car massively for the race
Red bull don’t have the luxury of race setups, their aim is to be annoying and if you’re starting 2-3 places behind Norris then it’s worthless, not to sound negative.

The fact the car cannot deal with track surfaces let alone curbs massively worries me. How they’ve got from the most dominant car of all time to this in the space of a season with no reg changes baffles me still

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- F1 technical is tremendously slow and sporadic this weekend.
- F1-tempo doesn't have data uploaded.

But as I expected the two medium speed 90 degree turns - 4 and 12, is paricularly weak, compared to McLaren. The only place where the car is better is the Senna esses. But that doesn't contribute much to laptime.
It is going to be worse delta in race trim.
Redbull should forget about McLaren this weekend and aim for P3 podium spot in sprint as well as race. Might be possible, with changing weather and Max's skill to squeeze everything out of the car. Ferrari race pace is a big threat, especially with high deg on a slippery track.

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Qatar is our only saving circuit with lots of medium-high speed corners. Its hard to watch this, Max cant fight with that car, end of the story. The gap could be less than 30 points with 3 races to go. Really sad, dont know what to say anymore.

Our only hope is Ferrari, really hoping they can win again and take the points away from Mclaren.

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I knew it was gonna be bad on this track. Based on past few races ferrari is faster in race trim than they are in quali so only P5 is a real possibility.

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Vettel165 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:53
Qatar is our only saving circuit with lots of medium-high speed corners. Its hard to watch this, Max cant fight with that car, end of the story. The gap could be less than 30 points with 3 races to go. Really sad, dont know what to say anymore.

Our only hope is Ferrari, really hoping they can win again and take the points away from Mclaren.
Don't get your hopes up for Qatar. While it does have some very high speed corners which will favour RB, its got much more medium speed ones which will massively benefit mclaren. Basically RB20 is only good in 230+ kmh corners and thats it.
Mclaren was already fastest in qatar last year, this year i expect them to dominate.

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The best hope is that the thunderstorms on Sunday mean the medical helicopter cannot fly.
A lion must kill its prey.

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It says's 100% precipitation for sunday, and 70% for saturday. Let's hope in the rain Super Max can do miracles and win with inferior car.

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Now it's 2021 all over again, but worse because of Ferrari pace.
Such championships 'battles' when only one of the two championship rivals has a chance to win throughout the most of the season suck.

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Vettel165 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:53
Qatar is our only saving circuit with lots of medium-high speed corners. Its hard to watch this, Max cant fight with that car, end of the story. The gap could be less than 30 points with 3 races to go. Really sad, dont know what to say anymore.

Our only hope is Ferrari, really hoping they can win again and take the points away from Mclaren.
Our only hope is Max, not Qatar and not the Ferrari, who will only take more points away from Max. Would be much better if they weren't as fast and Max could just finish 2nd or even 3rd not risking too much.
We, as his fans shouldn't be too sad about this situation, even if the racing, or shall we say the races aren't really fun to watch, knowing before the weekend even starts there is basically no chance to fight for a win.
Because this is truly unique situation this year. If he wins this championship in this RB20 car it will cement him truly as the goat if not forever, but for a very long time until the next prodigy shows up and does even better. Even if he retires in the end of the year. If not, then it wasn't meant to be, tough luck.
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This weekend the relative forces are the worst possible, Ferrari are faster but not enough to beat McLaren, so it'll be many points lost, but we knew that.

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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 22:10
The best hope is that the thunderstorms on Sunday mean the medical helicopter cannot fly.
Yes, you are right as usual.. This is the best hope indeed. LOL. But I would still prefer to watch the race irrespective of outcome, especially wet one.