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Rikrikrik wrote:
07 Mar 2025, 13:11
About new wind tunnel from De La Rosa...

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/de-la-ro ... 07035.html
If AM can start using from this month; not that bad for 26 car. Some reprieve [-o< [-o<

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NAPI10 wrote:
07 Mar 2025, 14:59
Rikrikrik wrote:
07 Mar 2025, 13:11
About new wind tunnel from De La Rosa...

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/de-la-ro ... 07035.html
If AM can start using from this month; not that bad for 26 car. Some reprieve [-o< [-o<
It is what it is. Obviously, if they have to use Merc's Tunnel they will.

That article, plus another one I read, suggests that they have contacted the FIA about the 2nd tunnel and the FIA are awaiting a call to go over and inspect the tunnel.

It's obviously better if they can use the new tunnel but it isn't the end of the world if they need too continue to use the Merc Tunnel. Merc will continue to use their tunnel regardless of what AM F1 does. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

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Good to know ,everyone(including drivers) are aligned -
https://www.motorsportweek.com/2025/03/ ... -campaign/

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A bit opinion and gossip from Michael Schmidt (AMuS):

Like all others he doesn't know if the car is fast or not, looking at the test programme, he hears that it is more predictable but (in comparison to others over the year) not quicker. He means that this programme looked like a big data collection for Newey, who will look over it, now having all the designs of the car too.

In comparison to other journalists Schmidt is sure that Newey will work on the 2025 car, especially if it is not competitive, because Stroll sen. won't tolerate a season being 7th or 8th fastest. He remembers that he did something similar at Williams 1990.

Briatore told Schmidt that Stroll/AMR is still very active recruiting engineers from other teams, Briatore and others wonder how many more engineers they try to recruit.

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id like to think that if the aero is completely different, then they should have a lot of room for improvement through setup and more data. but their track record is what it is. if there is room for easy performance gains newey will find them. hopefully warmer temps will turn the car into a speed demon :lol:

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-wkst- wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 10:11
A bit opinion and gossip from Michael Schmidt (AMuS):

Like all others he doesn't know if the car is fast or not, looking at the test programme, he hears that it is more predictable but (in comparison to others over the year) not quicker. He means that this programme looked like a big data collection for Newey, who will look over it, now having all the designs of the car too.

In comparison to other journalists Schmidt is sure that Newey will work on the 2025 car, especially if it is not competitive, because Stroll sen. won't tolerate a season being 7th or 8th fastest. He remembers that he did something similar at Williams 1990.

Briatore told Schmidt that Stroll/AMR is still very active recruiting engineers from other teams, Briatore and others wonder how many more engineers they try to recruit.
There are rumors that Aston was Sandbagging the most but also had the most issues. Without DRS they were the only team that consistently topped out at 290-298 compared to the 310-318 set by everyone else. Overall pace is a confusions, the car is gonna struggle in slow Circuits for sure but it's expected to be a Rocket in the straight line. Maybe even the fastest. True pace will only be clear in Japan and Bahrain but there is strong evidence showing the cars expected to be really fast in high speeds especially in a straight.
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Ashwinv16 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 05:17
-wkst- wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 10:11
A bit opinion and gossip from Michael Schmidt (AMuS):

Like all others he doesn't know if the car is fast or not, looking at the test programme, he hears that it is more predictable but (in comparison to others over the year) not quicker. He means that this programme looked like a big data collection for Newey, who will look over it, now having all the designs of the car too.

In comparison to other journalists Schmidt is sure that Newey will work on the 2025 car, especially if it is not competitive, because Stroll sen. won't tolerate a season being 7th or 8th fastest. He remembers that he did something similar at Williams 1990.

Briatore told Schmidt that Stroll/AMR is still very active recruiting engineers from other teams, Briatore and others wonder how many more engineers they try to recruit.
There are rumors that Aston was Sandbagging the most but also had the most issues. Without DRS they were the only team that consistently topped out at 290-298 compared to the 310-318 set by everyone else. Overall pace is a confusions, the car is gonna struggle in slow Circuits for sure but it's expected to be a Rocket in the straight line. Maybe even the fastest. True pace will only be clear in Japan and Bahrain but there is strong evidence showing the cars expected to be really fast in high speeds especially in a straight.
If that was the case then why they were struggling in sec 1 and sec 3 in Bahrain testing. They were not able to set mini personal green sector lap after lap always had yellow so actually they are struggling with pace too anyway everything will be clear in Australian gp how fast they are in straight line.

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Ashwinv16 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 05:17
-wkst- wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 10:11
A bit opinion and gossip from Michael Schmidt (AMuS):

Like all others he doesn't know if the car is fast or not, looking at the test programme, he hears that it is more predictable but (in comparison to others over the year) not quicker. He means that this programme looked like a big data collection for Newey, who will look over it, now having all the designs of the car too.

In comparison to other journalists Schmidt is sure that Newey will work on the 2025 car, especially if it is not competitive, because Stroll sen. won't tolerate a season being 7th or 8th fastest. He remembers that he did something similar at Williams 1990.

Briatore told Schmidt that Stroll/AMR is still very active recruiting engineers from other teams, Briatore and others wonder how many more engineers they try to recruit.
There are rumors that Aston was Sandbagging the most but also had the most issues. Without DRS they were the only team that consistently topped out at 290-298 compared to the 310-318 set by everyone else. Overall pace is a confusions, the car is gonna struggle in slow Circuits for sure but it's expected to be a Rocket in the straight line. Maybe even the fastest. True pace will only be clear in Japan and Bahrain but there is strong evidence showing the cars expected to be really fast in high speeds especially in a straight.
While some of the straight line speed stuff is true, it could also be down to the fact that they're carrying just too much drag. The high tyre wear was a feature of the car towards the end of last season and based on testing data seems to be this season as well. i think they will 9-15 in quali and slightly worse in race pace.

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KimiRai wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 13:58
Spanish camp says Aston is seventh fastest car but things could change during the season if an upgrade package makes the car come alive.
Alonso:
If you get an upgrade package right, it changes your season. We will have upgrades on the car and if one of those revives the car, suddenly you can fight for much better things. We shouldn't take the grid order during the first few races for granted.
It seems there is some hope on development.

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When Newey is on the team, there's always hope.
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But to be fair, that's what ALO says since months with "this 1 update which awakes the car".

Hopefully Newey can have a big and quick impact with his great knowledge of ground effect cars, but I guess that's more wishful thinking.

If he travels to Australia though, it's pretty much a confirmation that he is involved in this years car.

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Newey is not going to do much with this year's car but he certainly will do some later this year. He is also very good at the track for setting up the car. Just overall having him on the team is a huge asset and his influence and impact will expand over time.
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Ashwinv16 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 05:17
-wkst- wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 10:11
A bit opinion and gossip from Michael Schmidt (AMuS):

Like all others he doesn't know if the car is fast or not, looking at the test programme, he hears that it is more predictable but (in comparison to others over the year) not quicker. He means that this programme looked like a big data collection for Newey, who will look over it, now having all the designs of the car too.

In comparison to other journalists Schmidt is sure that Newey will work on the 2025 car, especially if it is not competitive, because Stroll sen. won't tolerate a season being 7th or 8th fastest. He remembers that he did something similar at Williams 1990.

Briatore told Schmidt that Stroll/AMR is still very active recruiting engineers from other teams, Briatore and others wonder how many more engineers they try to recruit.
There are rumors that Aston was Sandbagging the most but also had the most issues. Without DRS they were the only team that consistently topped out at 290-298 compared to the 310-318 set by everyone else. Overall pace is a confusions, the car is gonna struggle in slow Circuits for sure but it's expected to be a Rocket in the straight line. Maybe even the fastest. True pace will only be clear in Japan and Bahrain but there is strong evidence showing the cars expected to be really fast in high speeds especially in a straight.
There are no such thing just stay as rumours. I can show you many telemetry where the Aston was only faster in the corners instead of straight. If you choose day2 stroll fastest lap at 5 lap old tyres and fueled for at least 5 lap (after 5 lap went in the box) ,then you can see that they top speed always was very low like 310-312km/h ,but at corners was faster than Mercedes, Ferrari.

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Chuckjr wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 10:00
Newey is not going to do much with this year's car but he certainly will do some later this year. He is also very good at the track for setting up the car. Just overall having him on the team is a huge asset and his influence and impact will expand over time.
He will for sure give his feedback on 2025's car. I think when he can spot an elementary error which is fixable within update package plan, he can already bring 1 - 3 tenths during this season.