Ferrari F10

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DaveKillens
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I have an overwhelming respect for the people of the Ferrari team. The unknowns, the people who will never grace the cover of a racing magazine, the technicians, the construction people, and so on.

But make no mistake, I detest the politics that come out of that team, especially Monty. I appears he is already preparing an excuse, in which blame is laid on people outside of Ferrari. I guess they just don't have the equipment to stand up and take responsibility when things go wrong.

Now please bear with me, where I am going is only my personal opinion and speculation...

There was a time when Ferrari were treated differently than the rest, when Max Mosley gave them a "most favored" status. One aspect I consider relevant is that back then, if Ferrari had a new idea or were pushing the boundaries of the rules, they could take their idea to Max, and if the idea wasn't outside the regulations, he could guarantee that it would never be outlawed. That way, Ferrari could push ahead with something new, and never fear it would have to be retracted. But Max is gone, and it appears that Todt is treating Ferrari like every other team... no special treatment.

If that was true, then Ferrari might be hesitant on attempting anything radical, or on the boundaries of the rules. In other words, their diffuser won't be as big as the rest.

But really, it's pathetic when someone with the position of Monty starts to blame others, to lay the groundwork for excuses in case they don't get off to a good start.
That's no way to instill a "winning" attitude within the team, and it's putting politics over the actual racing.
Racing should be decided on the track, not the court room.

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Crabbia wrote:think of the ppl u'll save from tedium and dementia.
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mx_tifosi wrote:Isn't the brake system sealed off except for brake duct opening (inner side)? I would've thought that the little fin is a flow conditioner for the air behind the wishbone.

From the F60,
:arrow: http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 9/699.html
You're not getting it... yes you are right it's real world purpose is probably for something other than brake cooling. BUT, officially it's a brake duct. Just like the wheel frisbees that have now been banned.

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Mr Alcatraz
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Ferrari TD talks about the F10
From the bags under his eyes, I get the impression he works hard, and could use somesleep.
I don’t want to read too much into it; however I’m beginning to believe Ferrari have the goods this season.
Only time will tell if they are going to be at the pointy end this year.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/02/05/c ... are-video/
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astracrazy
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Tazio wrote:Ferrari TD talks about the F10
From the bags under his eyes, I get the impression he works hard, and could use somesleep.
I don’t want to read too much into it; however I’m beginning to believe Ferrari have the goods this season.
Only time will tell if they are going to be at the pointy end this year.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/02/05/c ... are-video/
nah he looks shagged out, good night with the wife is what i say lol

Richard
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DaveKillens wrote:....
You're entitled to your personal view, but I'm intrigued by this post. It seems to presume that Ferrari are hesitant and hence weak this season? Admittedly the car doesn't look as radical as some others, but we won't know their speed until Bahrain.

The alternative take is that Monty is the last of the posturing team principals playing mind games, his comments have no relation to reality. As a result, his comments stand out because we expect technically minded team principals (Brawn, Whitmarsh, Stefano) who are objective and considered.

Personally, in my mind Monty is as relevant to 2010 as Dennis, Moseley and Flavio. Just block him from your mind and be enlightened by Brawn, Whitmarsh & Stefano.

segedunum
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As someone mentioned in another thread, Ferrari looked good pretty good in last season's pre-season testing, and look what happened. I think they'll be might relieved that they've turned up with what looks like a respectable car they can work with, but there are hardly beaming smiles all over the garage.

As for fuel, they haven't done the long runs that other teams have been doing yet. At least it keeps the pressure off for a while.

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segedunum wrote:As someone mentioned in another thread, Ferrari looked good pretty good in last season's pre-season testing, and look what happened. I think they'll be might relieved that they've turned up with what looks like a respectable car they can work with, but there are hardly beaming smiles all over the garage.

As for fuel, they haven't done the long runs that other teams have been doing yet. At least it keeps the pressure off for a while.
I disagree. Ferrari were one of the worst runners during the 2009 championship pre-season testing.

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not true, they dominated in Bahrain

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I disagree. Ferrari were one of the worst runners during the 2009 championship pre-season testing.
Ferrari looked relatively good testing in Bahrain.
But the only other participants were Toyota and BMW.
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What is the connection here?
Costa also confirmed that Ferrari was running a 'highly' tapered gearbox on the F10 to try and maximise the effectiveness of the car's double diffuser.
Does he mean in the extreme, in its symmetry, or just to provide more room on the undercarriage http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81310
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Yeah bloody stellar times on day 3 for every one :)

Results

Pos. Driver Team Tires Time Laps
1 K. Räikkönen Ferrari Bridgestone 00:00.000 1
2 R. Kubica BMW Sauber Bridgestone 00:00.000 1
3 J. Trulli Toyota Bridgestone 00:00.000 1
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ISLAMATRON
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Sandstorm

bonjon1979
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ISLAMATRON wrote:not true, they dominated in Bahrain
Fastest time in Bahrain test.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/19/2 ... uary-19th/

2nd fastest in Barcelona. 5th march test.

1 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:20.052 92 / 123
2 K Raikkonen Ferrari 1:20.414 49 / 112
3 L Hamilton McLaren Mercedes 1:21.272 48 / 58
4 M Webber Red Bull Racing 1:22.219 30 / 47
5 K Nakajima AT&T Williams 1:22.226 42 / 54
6 J Trulli Toyota 1:23.119 26 / 38

Can't find other details. Ferrari looked quick, Mclaren looked like a right mutt (still had 08 wing on during these tests!)