Following today's last corner events during the Monaco GP, the stewards have carefully considered the overtaking matter of Michael Schumacher over Fernando Alonso. The team judged Schumacher was not allowed to overtake and handed him a 20 second penalty.
I think yes, as that line is at the start of the straight usually, the chances for driver to get into a slipstream and overtake are better.richard_leeds wrote:I presume it was in the hope that placing the line at the start of the home straight increases the chance of an overtaking manouvre out of the corner?
Remote_Access wrote:Damn seg, even when I back you up you find a way to be an argumentative moron.
That's because many are not reading what 40.13 actually says and are placing interpretations on it. That's why we have twenty odd pages of shite. People are glancing at the wording, finding that it doesn't actually mean anything or even that it is logically impossible and then placing an interpretation on it that if the safety car is out on the last lap then you simply don't overtake and cross the line. The rule never says that. Anwhere.The only thing not logically applicable is the statement "There is no interpretation" given the hundreds of posts clearly discussing disagreements of interpretation.
You're just reading it as you would've liked it to be and holding on to it hoping it will stick.segedunum wrote:You highlighted the wrong part:ecapox wrote:So if the safety car led the last lap, it is clearly written in 40.13 "If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."
The race hadn't ended and the safety car wasn't deployed. What that actually means or what people think that means, or even whether that is actually possible, is neither here not there. I suspect this was written when you couldn't overtake before the start/finish line, but, whatever."If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed"
The part you've highlighted in bold is entirely dependant on that because there is an 'if' involved. If the former is false then the latter cannot logically apply.
This has already been debunked, and frankly, I stopped reading Andrew Benson's nonsense articles a while ago. Note:
It's yet another interpretation people want to put on it that the rule never states. We simply don't know what it was intended for. Further down the article he actually looks at what the rule says and Ross Brawn is quite right to look at that first line 'If', and no, he's not being clever about it. He's reading the rule."Clearly, the rule is meant to be read as meaning that if the safety car is out during the final lap then, although it will pull into the pits before the end of the lap, the cars will proceed to the finish line without being allowed to overtake."
Track status green? And it was clearly evident they were racing to the line.Jersey Tom wrote:So what? I believe that's just commentary, not race control.
No, I'm reading exactly what it says I'm afraid.Moanlower wrote:You're just reading it as you would've liked it to be and holding on to it hoping it will stick.
Yes it does:Ofcourse the race wasn't ended yet and thats not what the rule says.
This is a mistake you and others keep making. That is neither here nor there I'm afraid, and it doesn't even matter if the rule is logically nonsense. You look at what the rule says, apply it and then come up with something better if it doesn't do what you intended. That's why Formula One's governance is such utter shite.How on earth could they mean if the race was ended following with 'the SC will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap.
There is nothing else to see. The wording of whatever this ruling actually means is clear. I'm afraid you're desperately not looking at the actual wording of the ruling and you've never done so in any of your posts.Anywho, enough said. You just don't want to see it.
Official FOM Commentary tho.Jersey Tom wrote:So what? I believe that's just commentary, not race control.
It is, and it also tallies with everything that race control did.djos wrote:Official FOM Commentary tho.Jersey Tom wrote:So what? I believe that's just commentary, not race control.
