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cable ties - is there anything they cant do?
Looks like they even have CB radio :wink:
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I have the feeling that f-duct it's disrupting what we would call the normal development of F10, it seems ferrari it's gaving it too much "weight"...

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I'm hugely disappointed with Ferrari (dont worry I wont open a new topic :D )

They gave up last season and the 3rd place in constructors to work on this car. Now it's not a bad car, as Brundle already said it is fundementally a good car but they lack development pace. Maybe Istanbul is a one off because I still feel Alonso could've won Monaco from P1/P2. But anyway when a team as big and rich as Ferrari stop developing half way through the season you'd expect their new car to dominate. What the hell are the 600 employees doing in the factory at Maranello all day? Eating lunch? Because they're definately not working on the car, that's for sure. I don't like where Ferrari is going, bringing in Alonso was a good thing but I would reconsider Domenicali's position. Ferrari's weakness is also their strength: being one family. It just means its more difficult to throw someone out. Massa really should leave after this season, I think most of us know that, but because there is so much history between him and Ferrari, he'll probably stay.

Come on Ferrari get your act together!

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TheRMVR wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with Ferrari (dont worry I wont open a new topic :D )

They gave up last season and the 3rd place in constructors to work on this car. Now it's not a bad car, as Brundle already said it is fundementally a good car but they lack development pace. Maybe Istanbul is a one off because I still feel Alonso could've won Monaco from P1/P2. But anyway when a team as big and rich as Ferrari stop developing half way through the season you'd expect their new car to dominate. What the hell are the 600 employees doing in the factory at Maranello all day? Eating lunch? Because they're definately not working on the car, that's for sure. I don't like where Ferrari is going, bringing in Alonso was a good thing but I would reconsider Domenicali's position. Ferrari's weakness is also their strength: being one family. It just means its more difficult to throw someone out. Massa really should leave after this season, I think most of us know that, but because there is so much history between him and Ferrari, he'll probably stay.

Come on Ferrari get your act together!
Its funny, after the Monaco GP, the same sort of posts about McLaren were flying around.

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Vasco wrote:
TheRMVR wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with Ferrari (dont worry I wont open a new topic :D )

They gave up last season and the 3rd place in constructors to work on this car. Now it's not a bad car, as Brundle already said it is fundementally a good car but they lack development pace. Maybe Istanbul is a one off because I still feel Alonso could've won Monaco from P1/P2. But anyway when a team as big and rich as Ferrari stop developing half way through the season you'd expect their new car to dominate. What the hell are the 600 employees doing in the factory at Maranello all day? Eating lunch? Because they're definately not working on the car, that's for sure. I don't like where Ferrari is going, bringing in Alonso was a good thing but I would reconsider Domenicali's position. Ferrari's weakness is also their strength: being one family. It just means its more difficult to throw someone out. Massa really should leave after this season, I think most of us know that, but because there is so much history between him and Ferrari, he'll probably stay.

Come on Ferrari get your act together!
Its funny, after the Monaco GP, the same sort of posts about McLaren were flying around.
That is unfair, McLaren started the season clearly behind Ferrari and now they seem to be in front. And Mercedes is on the back of Ferrari. Anyway you can clearly see some progress on the McLaren car but the only thing that keeps Ferrari busy is that stupid F-duct.

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TheRMVR wrote:That is unfair, McLaren started the season clearly behind Ferrari and now they seem to be in front. And Mercedes is on the back of Ferrari. Anyway you can clearly see some progress on the McLaren car but the only thing that keeps Ferrari busy is that stupid F-duct.
Agreed. Somebody clearly overestimated its significance.
Same story as in Barcelona, and it seems again that F-duct only hurt them.
Gotta check onboard footage. Could they go 8 flat?

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timbo wrote:
TheRMVR wrote:That is unfair, McLaren started the season clearly behind Ferrari and now they seem to be in front. And Mercedes is on the back of Ferrari. Anyway you can clearly see some progress on the McLaren car but the only thing that keeps Ferrari busy is that stupid F-duct.
Agreed. Somebody clearly overestimated its significance.
Same story as in Barcelona, and it seems again that F-duct only hurt them.
Gotta check onboard footage. Could they go 8 flat?
No, so far the RedBull is the only car to take 8 flat.

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TheRMVR wrote:No, so far the RedBull is the only car to take 8 flat.
Renault could do that too.

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Clearly ferrari needs something on the aero department, they're miles away from RBR, Mclaren and even renault and mercedes in terms of fast development, at such speed at the end of the championship they will only be racing with FI.

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TheRMVR wrote:
timbo wrote:
TheRMVR wrote:That is unfair, McLaren started the season clearly behind Ferrari and now they seem to be in front. And Mercedes is on the back of Ferrari. Anyway you can clearly see some progress on the McLaren car but the only thing that keeps Ferrari busy is that stupid F-duct.
Agreed. Somebody clearly overestimated its significance.
Same story as in Barcelona, and it seems again that F-duct only hurt them.
Gotta check onboard footage. Could they go 8 flat?
No, so far the RedBull is the only car to take 8 flat.
how do you know have you viewd their telemetry? i dont think so

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They need to work on using those harder compound tyres better. That seems to be their biggest problem in my view. Will be interesting to see how the F10 goes in Montreal: fast track with the super-soft and medium tyres. Maybe that will give us some answers.

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I think they put too much into the F-duct, while mclaren are focusing on the rest of the car. The F10's top speed wasn't even up to snuff on this track. Lets hope the updates for Canada are big ones.
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No, so far the RedBull is the only car to take 8 flat.[/quote]

how do you know have you viewd their telemetry? i dont think so[/quote]

Martin Brundle said that. Also in the interview with Button, Jenson said that he was amazed that Webber could take turn 8 flat. Mercedes can't take it flat, Ferrari can't take it flat, Button said they can't take it flat. Timbo says Renault could also take it flat, Im not sure, Ill check the onboard footage.

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flat yes..but didn´t they change up a gear thenafter the corner?

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TheRMVR wrote:Anyway you can clearly see some progress on the McLaren car but the only thing that keeps Ferrari busy is that stupid F-duct.
it reminds me last season when Ferrari (and few other teams) put a lot of efforts into KERS... seems like red team is strongly believing one great solution could jump them forward, when in fact there are a lot of systems in the car requiring constant development.