Belgian GP 2010 - Spa Francorchamps

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Pup
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It's fine to say that Vettel's still in the learning process, but he's only got nine less races under his belt than Hamilton. Over the years we've seen Hamilton slowly but steadily mature, but we've yet to see the same such improvement from Vettel. He's still as rash and mistake-prone as day one.

Confused_Andy
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andrew wrote:Is anyone else suspicious about Button being so slow? Sure his wing was damaged, but it looked pretty minor or am I just too sceptical for my own good on this one?

Any serodynamists out there?
Jenson was also running more downforce (apparently) than Hamilton too, the front wings were different and also the body work, this could have hampered his overall speed along with the damaged front wing.

Pup
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And he could also just be slower than Hamilton. :wink:

komninosm
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Pup wrote:And he could also just be slower than Hamilton. :wink:
Hehe so obvious =D>
OMG Button is slower than Hamilton, it must be team orders, it's a conspiracy :roll:

Pierre6
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komninosm wrote:
Pup wrote:And he could also just be slower than Hamilton. :wink:
Hehe so obvious =D>
OMG Button is slower than Hamilton, it must be team orders, it's a conspiracy :roll:
Haha! True, true.

andrew
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In equal machinery, they are just as fast as each other IMHO. Buttons wing was damaged but I think he was milking it a fair bit. Once Button was out, Hamiltons engineer sounded a bit too concerned for my liking. If he really was that fast then there was no need for the radio mesage telling him that Kubica et al were catchin.

Giblet
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You're kidding right? 10/13 this year faster average race lap than Button. Equal cars, equal chances.

Here ya go.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/l ... mate-2010/
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

myurr
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Giblet wrote:You're kidding right? 10/13 this year faster average race lap than Button. Equal cars, equal chances.

Here ya go.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/l ... mate-2010/
Clearly he didn't look at todays fastest lap times either, nor did he notice that whenever it mattered Hamilton was comfortably quicker than the rest.

andrew
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10/13 is hardly a complete trouncing is it?

His car wasn't damaged too much, plus the presence of Ron Dennis .....
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Giblet
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Thats 10 out of 13. Not 10 to 13. There has not been 23 races this season yet, nor will there be.

That is a trouncing in matters of raw speed.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

marcush.
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Re: Belgian GP 2010 - Circuit de Spa Francorchamps

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mind you ,the name of the game is not who can lap quicker anytime ,it is who will amass the most points in the season.
Hamilton is delivering the goods ...as others bow ..webber throwing away pole,Kubica ,Vettel not without fault,Button slower and running out of luck in the wrong moment.well done.

Giblet
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In Webber's defense, he said after the race that they were having difficulties with the practice launches and the clutch bogging in the warmup lap, so they made an adjustment to the clutch, that made it worse.

He recovered quite nicely though.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

CHT
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this crash might actually be good for button reputation. From now on, the F1 world will blame vettel's reckless overtaking for destroying button's chance of retaining the WDC, instead his super quick team mate hamilton

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He did have that engine failure at Monaco that wasn't his fault either. So that's two non points finishes that weren't of his doing. Overall he's done pretty damn good against Lewis and hasn't shown that he's wilted under the pressure of having such a great teammate.

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andrew wrote:In equal machinery, they are just as fast as each other IMHO. Buttons wing was damaged but I think he was milking it a fair bit. Once Button was out, Hamiltons engineer sounded a bit too concerned for my liking. If he really was that fast then there was no need for the radio mesage telling him that Kubica et al were catchin.
/faceplam
You HO does not really match the facts and even if it did somewhat it still wouldn't mean team orders. The engineer simply informed him of the facts:
Button was slower and was holding up Vettel and the rest who can't pass a car less than a second slower. Vettel took out Button and now the others could accelerate to their max speed. Hence Hamilton could be threatened. The end.
Hamilton showed he could do faster laps than everyone else when he needed to, he was just taking it easy.
So let's drop the conspiracy theories and only get uppity for obvious team orders like Ferrari does (or RBR). [-X