Singapore Grand Prix 2010 - Marina Bay

[WhiteBlue]

Webber is such a lucky S**. He was half a second slower than Vettel in the same car all weekend. He profited twice from the safety car to make up all the time he lost and when he risked a collision he got away without a puncture on this damaged wheel. An incredible story. He must have a contract with lady luck to have her crap all over his competitors.

[Poleman]

Webber is such a lucky S**. He was half a second slower than Vettel in the same car all weekend. He profited twice from the safety car to make up all the time he lost and when he risked a collision he got away without a puncture on this damaged wheel. An incredible story. He must have a contract with lady luck to have her crap all over his competitors.

Quite true...Imagine that thing falling apart on the left hand turn sequence before the finish line?...He was lucky to get that car back home.

[ringo]

Grinds your gears doesn't it Whiteblue?
Your boy is younger, faster, more talented, but the results are clouding the facts.
Webber is sloppy and all over the place and he's finishing well, on to a WDC.
Every week statistics and odds say Vettel wins and destroys webber, but the opposite happens in reality.

He's the champ this year for sure. He's the chosen one. The more you belittle him, the better his results.

Webber has the luck, and the fastest car to win the WDC. Luck is 35% car is 60% driver 5%.

I don't mind Webber as WDC. If he does it, it's well deserved and well fought for.

Vettel can wait, Hamilton still the youngest WDC! =D>

[komninosm]

Webber is such a lucky S**. He was half a second slower than Vettel in the same car all weekend. He profited twice from the safety car to make up all the time he lost and when he risked a collision he got away without a puncture on this damaged wheel. An incredible story. He must have a contract with lady luck to have her crap all over his competitors.

Did the first SC feel like kinda not necessary to you? Maybe they lacked a crane there though...

[raymondu999]

I think we'll need one of WB's trademark blow-by-blow photo analyses of these events with Webber and Hamilton

WB, actually, arguably it's time that he gets SOME return for his 6 or so years of bad luck... While it may seem a bit unfair that his 6 years worth of saved up good luck is all happening in one season

(Disclaimer: This post was not meant as an attack of any form and all its content is meant in good fun )

Has anyone noticed that Lewis has seemingly reverted back to his 2007 days in terms of driving style? I noticed earlier on this year that he changed in terms of driving style, to a car that is pointy, but not necessarily having the tail scamper about. But in Qualifying you saw the old aggression on the wheel back, having to apply opposite lock quite a few times.

And are we enraged by the Kubica pass on Petrov yet?

[Intego]

And are we enraged by the Kubica pass on Petrov yet?

To me it was clear it would happen asap. I think it's not worth talking about, because Petrov is not the driver you need to secretly instruct to let pass his teammate.

[raymondu999]

Seems to be ingrained in the Renault culture somehow. They always have a patsy number 2 to support a quicker guy.

[Intego]

This weekend we saw various but similar passing manoeuvres (Lewis—Mark, Bob—Adrian, NickH—MickS). One time it matched, two times it didnt't. Why?

In the past we have seen wheel-to-wheel fights over many curves, racers knew "ok, I'm past him, but can I stay past him?".
This time — particularly in turn 7 (Memorial Corner — named well =D> ) — the racers thought "I'm past him — fine".
Both Nick and Lewis thought they had the line and closed the door more or less but didn't think of where their contenders are. Lewis said he would not have known where Mark was. Really? Did he guess he flew away like in Valencia? [cynical mode off]
(BTW Webbers line and speed indeed was optimistic but legitim)
That's an odd way of racing. If everybody relies on considerateness of the others, but nobody is considerate, then these race incidents happen and noone or everyone is to blame for.

The reasons why Bob's move worked out are considerateness of both drivers: Bob knew "I've got fresh tyres, I can make it, but have to leave enough space" and Adrian presumably knew "damn, my tyres are gone, step back, save points".

BTW Kubica's passing manoeuvres were great fun but not that magical with his new tyre grip advantage. (No bashing intended)

[djos]

Well put intego, these things happen when Drivers dont leave racing room for their opponents.

[Intego]

Another topic:
May it be that Nick was faster than Kamui in this race? I've only got the fastest lap times:

Pos, No, Driver, Lap, Avg Speed, Time

16, 22, Nick Heidfeld, 29, 162.372, 1:52.475
20, 23, Kamui Kobayashi, 22, 160.260, 1:53.957
f1.com/fastestlaps

Kamui's DNF happened in lap 30, so Nick was faster this race. =D>

[raymondu999]

Errm... not really. Kamui had a DNF after lap 30, when he had 31 more laps of fuel on board. You don't know if they're saving fuel, or tyres, etc

[Intego]

Seems to be ingrained in the Renault culture somehow. They always have a patsy number 2 to support a quicker guy.

Right. And if Petrov wants to save his chances for staying Renault or just Formula One driver he should not race his teammate, who needs points to get past Rosberg in the WDC table.

[ringo]

Has anyone noticed that Lewis has seemingly reverted back to his 2007 days in terms of driving style? I noticed earlier on this year that he changed in terms of driving style, to a car that is pointy, but not necessarily having the tail scamper about. But in Qualifying you saw the old aggression on the wheel back, having to apply opposite lock quite a few times.
:

No his style changes according to what he wants from the car, it's the car's relative position to the other cars.
If the car's logically not supposed to win and yet the driver has the desire to win at any cost, you'll see the kind of driving that you mention.
Opposite lock came when the team wanted 3 tenths a lap and the car had to be put on a knife edge to get it.
The whole race was on the edge for him, no matter why he crashed.

button's pace is a true reflection of what is expected from that car to go around that track safely, but you can't hope to win then.
Kobayashi and Hamilton were going balls to wall for 2hrs, and got them smashed.

[Intego]

Errm... not really. Kamui had a DNF after lap 30, when he had 31 more laps of fuel on board. You don't know if they're saving fuel, or tyres, etc

Nick and Kamui presumably were in the same mode. Nicks fastest lap was in lap 29, Kamui didn't beat it. And both were racing Schumacher, that didn't look like saving fuel.
BTW Kamui had the option tyres, Nick was on prime.

EDIT: I remember that after the free practices Nick said that the car wasn't balanced well on options ...

[Byronrhys]

Errm... not really. Kamui had a DNF after lap 30, when he had 31 more laps of fuel on board. You don't know if they're saving fuel, or tyres, etc

Nick and Kamui presumably were in the same mode. Nicks fastest lap was in lap 29, Kamui didn't beat it. And both were racing Schumacher, that didn't look like saving fuel.
BTW Kamui had the option tyres, Nick was on prime.

EDIT: I remember that after the free practices Nick said that the car wasn't balanced well on options ...

They couldn't be on the same strategy if they were on different tyres, it seems you didn't watch the race so let me tell you, Kamui was kinda stuck behind Michael who was sleeping early in the race guess the crash waked him up later and let he get 4th fastest time, Plus Kamui's tyres were gone and he couldn't pit then or he would lose too much in the pits hence he had to try get past Michael and push.