Vettel and Webber have secured a perfect result for Red Bull by finishing 1-2 in Japan. The Bulls started from the front row of the grid and were never under threat to secure this finish. Fernando Alonso finished third and keeps his championship hopes up.
I don't that's relevant. Someone could jump 2 metres and come to a full stop before the lights go out. Would still be a jump start. I think what is important here is that after the slight movement, he was still within his grid slot.imightbewrong wrote:Furthermore I don't think it had an effect on the outcome of the race, since he came to a full stop before the lights went out.
imightbewrong wrote:Hulkenberg did exactly the same, but more prominent. Interesting video of the start, teh view from many cars (Hulk, Massa, Koba?) catch it while it is still up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-A4hHq_A4I
Webber patient? Please, anytime he is overtaken he out drives himself to try and defend a lost position. Most of the time it results in him out breaking himself and running off or running himself and others way off line. He is a complete hot head!ahmedvortex wrote:* Webber is ... more patient
I do recall Kob passing a FI on equally bad tires. Additionally Kob had a super late pit stop, meaning he ran his first set far longer than anyone else. I think him reaping the rewards of fresh tires late in he race is fair game. He was brave and opportunistic in the situation. Its funny how everyone claims to want more passing yet they are so quick to discredit those who do make the passes.ahmedvortex wrote: * Kobayashi over showed by the race producer , profiting of the tire freshness to overtake cars clearly far from his pace , three overtakes on the same corner ( the ones who demand the best rear tires grip )
Only reason I can think of is that Hulk ran someone completely over and Massa was pretty much squeezed out onto the grass. Yeah he came in hot, but that may be the difference in the stewards judgement.andartop wrote:I can't see why they punished Petrov but not Massa.. He is experienced enough to know you don't win a race in the first corner, and Suzuka is well known for first corner incidents..
I don't know about no big deal. I think every driver would love another 3-5 feet advantage going into turn 1. Now, as long as you are still behind your starting line and not moving, then yes, no big deal. Which may have been the deal here, still behind the line and not moving, no penalty.Ray wrote:I wouldn't call either a jump start. They both came to a complete stop before setting off again and they didn't jump very far. I remember one start where I think it was Sato who jumped and got like 1/2 to 3/4 car lenght movement before anyone else. I see it as long as they don't move more than 3-5 feet and come to a complete stop before setting off again it really isn't that big of a deal.
