Canadian GP 2011 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

[Pierce89]

This makes the Nascar race going on right now look awesome.

[flynfrog]

So... red flag. My view on the incidents of importance so far...

1. HAM vs WEB... pure racing incident, WEB gave room, HAM tried to use it, understeered a bit wide.
2. HAM vs MSC... MSC moved twice and pushed HAM onto the grass – all MSC's fault.
3. HAM vs BUT... HAM was being a bit optimistic, but BUT shouldn't have moved over, probably accidental. Bottom line – while you don't expect drivers to just wave people past, you also don't expect them to push them off the road. The rules agree here "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted." – I don't think it was deliberate here, but I just wanted to point out to the "you can't just let them through" crowd – you also can't push them off the track.

Wow your analysis is stunning even for a guy with a Yellow helmet in your avatar

[myurr]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E2nEye9e_0[/youtube]

Clearly shows they both chose to go left, Hamilton was committed, Button pushed him off the road (presumably unaware he was already alongside).

Lewis was 100% right to attack at that moment, Button should have given him space but can probably be excused because of the weather.

[zeph]

Hamilton needs Yoda.

And Webber needs RBR to give him a car that works.

And Ferrari needs a new strategist.

[Mr Alcatraz]

I wonder how Montoya is doing

[myurr]

So... red flag. My view on the incidents of importance so far...

1. HAM vs WEB... pure racing incident, WEB gave room, HAM tried to use it, understeered a bit wide.
2. HAM vs MSC... MSC moved twice and pushed HAM onto the grass – all MSC's fault.
3. HAM vs BUT... HAM was being a bit optimistic, but BUT shouldn't have moved over, probably accidental. Bottom line – while you don't expect drivers to just wave people past, you also don't expect them to push them off the road. The rules agree here "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted." – I don't think it was deliberate here, but I just wanted to point out to the "you can't just let them through" crowd – you also can't push them off the track.

Wow your analysis is stunning even for a guy with a Yellow helmet in your avatar

And you sir are a blatant fanboy. Care to explain exactly where beelsebob's analysis is so comical?

[flixfe]

1. HAM vs WEB... pure racing incident, WEB gave room, HAM tried to use it, understeered a bit wide.
2. HAM vs MSC... MSC moved twice and pushed HAM onto the grass – all MSC's fault.
3. HAM vs BUT... HAM was being a bit optimistic, but BUT shouldn't have moved over, probably accidental. Bottom line – while you don't expect drivers to just wave people past, you also don't expect them to push them off the road. The rules agree here "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted." – I don't think it was deliberate here, but I just wanted to point out to the "you can't just let them through" crowd – you also can't push them off the track.

I'm with you on all 3 points. I think HAM trying to pass BUT was a perfectly fine attempt because all HAM did was drive to the outside of BUT. The only explanation can be that BUT did not see HAM, but then on the replay you can see that BUT is looking in his left mirror after leaving the chicane. So a misjudgement from BUT's part on HAMs exit speed advantage?

[flynfrog]

This makes the Nascar race going on right now look awesome.

are they at Pocono this week?

[andrew]

So... red flag. My view on the incidents of importance so far...

1. HAM vs WEB... pure racing incident, WEB gave room, HAM tried to use it, understeered a bit wide.
2. HAM vs MSC... MSC moved twice and pushed HAM onto the grass – all MSC's fault.
3. HAM vs BUT... HAM was being a bit optimistic, but BUT shouldn't have moved over, probably accidental. Bottom line – while you don't expect drivers to just wave people past, you also don't expect them to push them off the road. The rules agree here "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted." – I don't think it was deliberate here, but I just wanted to point out to the "you can't just let them through" crowd – you also can't push them off the track.

Wow your analysis is stunning even for a guy with a Yellow helmet in your avatar

Even someone from Elgin can get something nearly right once in a while!

Looks like no racing for about 30 minutes.

Just seen a replay of the McLaren shenanigans along the pit wall. I don't know which team it was but one of the pit board guys moved hell of a quick just in time!

[flynfrog]

So... red flag. My view on the incidents of importance so far...

1. HAM vs WEB... pure racing incident, WEB gave room, HAM tried to use it, understeered a bit wide.
2. HAM vs MSC... MSC moved twice and pushed HAM onto the grass – all MSC's fault.
3. HAM vs BUT... HAM was being a bit optimistic, but BUT shouldn't have moved over, probably accidental. Bottom line – while you don't expect drivers to just wave people past, you also don't expect them to push them off the road. The rules agree here "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted." – I don't think it was deliberate here, but I just wanted to point out to the "you can't just let them through" crowd – you also can't push them off the track.

Wow your analysis is stunning even for a guy with a Yellow helmet in your avatar

And you sir are a blatant fanboy. Care to explain exactly where beelsebob's analysis is so comical?

I think you will find that I have no favorite driver and that the exact opposite is true

[Pierce89]

I wonder how Montoya is doing

actually he's doing well, running top five, or he was last i flipped to that channel

[ParanoiD]

No mystery in F1 strategy, just do the opposite of Ferrari!!
LOL

[Mr Alcatraz]

This makes the Nascar race going on right now look awesome.

are they at Pocono this week?

You better Hong Kong believe it!

[Morteza]

Why red flag? It is so boring to watch a race like this. We've had races with worse conditions and the race went on. What's wrong with this stewards? I totally agree with you Wesley. It seems there is not going to be a new rain master with these red flags. We will have dry masters instead!

[FrukostScones]

I have no problem with red, what I hate are sc periods. Remember all motorsport guardian angels were spend at le mans already!