Canadian GP 2011 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

[andartop]

Restart?

[flynfrog]

some one tell me if they are going to restart im watching Neck Car

[beelsebob]

he should have lifted long before that point there was no way he was ever going to make that pass

Only if the other driver intends to run you off the road (which is against the rules). Presumably you don't like it when racing drivers... race?

I believe you also have to be half way past the car for them to have to give you room. I don't mind the racing but I don't feel bad Hammy hit the wall either he took a move he had no chance of making unless Jensson let him by

I don't believe the rule says anything about being half way past. It's illegal to force another car off the track, simple as that.

[myurr]

he should have lifted long before that point there was no way he was ever going to make that pass

Only if the other driver intends to run you off the road (which is against the rules). Presumably you don't like it when racing drivers... race?

I believe you also have to be half way past the car for them to have to give you room. I don't mind the racing but I don't feel bad Hammy hit the wall either he took a move he had no chance of making unless Jensson let him by

You believe wrong. There is no delineation in the rules, only that you must not force the other car off the road.

There's no such thing as a pass where the defender doesn't have the opportunity to turn into the overtaker or push them off the road. All overtakes rely on the defender being sensible and allowing room - this one was no different.

[andrew]

Kobayashi in second place is a record for Japan, isn't it? Sato was third once.

Yep, US GP in 2004. Aguri Suzuki was 3rd in Japan 91.

I think you are right, 2nd will be the best finish by a Japanese driver.

[zeph]

Hamilton gets chummy with Rihanna. Nicole no likey.

[wesley123]

Kobayashi in second place is a record for Japan, isn't it? Sato was third once.

Yep, US GP in 2004. Aguri Suzuki was 3rd in Japan 91.

I think you are right, 2nd will be the best finish by a Japanese driver.

This you can barely call a finish though lol

[flynfrog]

listen to the audio he was still in the throttle at that point keep beating that drum

By that point it was too late and he probably would have lost control if he'd lifted. He was already having to countersteer due to his wheel being on the grass.

then maybe he should have taken a different line to start with.

hell im pretty sure I would not have seen a Truck at that point in my street car with big mirrors Button had no idea he was there.

[andrew]

Is that even a word

Only if you can't say the letter R.

[ringo]

he should have lifted long before that point there was no way he was ever going to make that pass

Only if the other driver intends to run you off the road (which is against the rules). Presumably you don't like it when racing drivers... race?

I believe you also have to be half way past the car for them to have to give you room. I don't mind the racing but I don't feel bad Hammy hit the wall either he took a move he had no chance of making unless Jensson let him by

show me where it says that in the regs.

Button ran the guy of the road simple.
No analysis required. No different than Hungary 2010, you saw that race did you?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgWMec_MmMM[/youtube]

what's the difference ?

[andrew]

Kobayashi in second place is a record for Japan, isn't it? Sato was third once.

Yep, US GP in 2004. Aguri Suzuki was 3rd in Japan 91.

I think you are right, 2nd will be the best finish by a Japanese driver.

This you can barely call a finish though lol

Still a result after a race has been finished. The method of finishing the race doesn't matter in the record books.

[ringo]

listen to the audio he was still in the throttle at that point keep beating that drum

By that point it was too late and he probably would have lost control if he'd lifted. He was already having to countersteer due to his wheel being on the grass.

then maybe he should have taken a different line to start with.

hell im pretty sure I would not have seen a Truck at that point in my street car with big mirrors Button had no idea he was there.

just give up. Button was staring on Hamilton in the mirror.

[FrukostScones]

what's the difference ?

rain, visiblity, track width, racing line

[beelsebob]

Notably, barrichello was in exactly the same position when schumacher started the squeeze.

Do it to BAR you get a penalty; do it to HAM... well, we don't know yet, but I would bet the FIA will see it as HAM's fault.

[flynfrog]

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he should have lifted long before that point there was no way he was ever going to make that pass

Only if the other driver intends to run you off the road (which is against the rules). Presumably you don't like it when racing drivers... race?

I believe you also have to be half way past the car for them to have to give you room. I don't mind the racing but I don't feel bad Hammy hit the wall either he took a move he had no chance of making unless Jensson let him by

You believe wrong. There is no delineation in the rules, only that you must not force the other car off the road.

There's no such thing as a pass where the defender doesn't have the opportunity to turn into the overtaker or push them off the road. All overtakes rely on the defender being sensible and allowing room - this one was no different.[/quote]so if I put the tip of my wing where there is no chance I can make it stick you have to give me room? Hamilton had plenty of time not to run off the track he just refused to lift