2012 British GP - Silverstone Circuit

[ESPImperium]

New podium procedure is for fans at circuit. Good idea. It will not replace post race press conference, however the TV guys may not show it now.

As for Maldanado, this one was down to the car, however he should have yeilded earlier in order not to loose control. He is on one repramand i belive, this may get a second one, and i belive that if he gets a third one, he should be forced to sit a race out and Williams run Bottas and Senna.

In the past, drivers were forced to sit out races for less than what Maldanado has done this year.

My driver of the day is Grosjean, even tho he ruined Di Restas race. Perez was on a flyer. Also good race from Button and Senna. Webber drove the best ive seen him drive ever.

[Shrieker]

Looks like McLaren put all of its season development to improve the front jacks and pitstops rather than outright pace .

It's ironic don't you think that they had absolutely problem free and fast stops when the car was dead slow... Something's wrong at Mclaren, and it's not just down to luck.

[siskue2005]

As this is technical forum
Why do you guys think the hard was faster than softs?
That yellow tyre was faster in all the previous races

[razorbum]

I'm really hating on Maldonado now. It's clear that he's an overly aggressively driver who cares only about himself.

I agree that Grosjean is my driver of the race. Great driver from him to take P6. He's maturing well into a good F1 driver. Wouldn't be long before we see him actively fighting to be the WDC.

And great race from Webber and Alonso. 2 top drivers fighting it out at the end. Great race.

[GrizzleBoy]

As this is technical forum
Why do you guys think the hard was faster than softs?
That yellow tyre was faster in all the previous races

They are fast, just not for long on Silverstones abrasive surface.

[razorbum]

As this is technical forum
Why do you guys think the hard was faster than softs?
That yellow tyre was faster in all the previous races

I think because this is a fast circuit, so the grip is not as important as having the tires last long. Hence overall it was the faster choice, compared to circuits like Monaco I guess.

[rssh]

As this is technical forum
Why do you guys think the hard was faster than softs?
That yellow tyre was faster in all the previous races

May be because they really didn't expect it to be a dryy race and hence might have a set up to warm the tyres early so that tyres retain the heat (in wet) but since the race was dry they simply overheated there tyres and hence degredation . Also we saw that Ferrari was really good with the inters in getting heat into them in qualy .

[thearmofbarlow]

As this is technical forum
Why do you guys think the hard was faster than softs?
That yellow tyre was faster in all the previous races

Not much time to adjust high-downforce wet weather setups to the dry conditions. Blaming Pirelli is stupid. Blame the skies that stayed sunny.

And while I'm here, would someone please kick Maldonado's ass? Seriously, the guy should not be allowed to compete any longer. This isn't early Lewis Hamilton "win it or bin it" mentality. This is a driver that obviously gives zero --- about those around him and he has absolutely no place on the grid.

[radosav]

As this is technical forum
Why do you guys think the hard was faster than softs?
That yellow tyre was faster in all the previous races

1st stint : in 10 laps alonso on hards made 4 sec advantage to webber on softs
2nd stint: both on hards gap was the same ,around 5 sec
3rd stint: in 10 laps alonso on softs lost 4 sec advantage to webber on hards
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... o%20Alonso

so i must say that alonso's ferrari and webber's red bull were prety even on race pace, on both cars softs were 0.4 sec slower than hards

[Guisson]

Well Done Mark Great Drive , well deserved win
Ferrari might have run softs on the seond stint I think :/ , But no doubt the Ferraris are back at the front and there is no way to call it a dog of a car now . Happy For Massa , nice 4th place strong race
Alonso and Webber are now starting to pull away in the championship with Vettel right on their tails with just 1 win away ( maybe next time in his home GP? )
So bad from the Mclarens I guess they were setup for a Wet track? With Schumi Finishing 7th not a bad result after seeing what happened to him.
Best Drive : Romain Grosjean or Bruno Senna who did a very clean race
Worst Drive: Pastor Maldonado , Both of the Mclarens who were struggling with their Tyres
I dunno why buy this season reminds me a bit of 2010

Rate : 7/10
Oh and yes strange weather ..

[Gridlock]

my money is on Webber for the win (literally). I do think Hamilton will be on pole though, absent changeable q3 weather

14/1 =D> =D>

[marcush.]

the pit stop times are really something -Mclarten now a full second quicker than Ferrari ...(total time in pits)

[zyphro]

Did Alonso lose the race on strategy? It appeared to me that, the Ferrari was too slow on the softer compound which is what lost them the race?

[zyphro]

the pit stop times are really something -Mclarten now a full second quicker than Ferrari ...(total time in pits)

Yeah, IIRC Mclaren got 2.8's .

[andartop]

As for the Maldonado-Perez incident, I can't see what was different to the Maldonado-Hamilton incident in Valencia. I thought we had agreed that the defending driver can hold on to the racing line and is not obliged to leave space on the outside at the exit of the corner? Wasn't that exactly what Hamilton did to Maldonado in Valencia? I'm not trying to ignite things here, I honestly don't understand the difference.

The difference is that:

A: There was TONNES of room for Perez to make his move. There was NONE for Maldonado in Valencia.

B: Lewis defended his position without trashing another car. Maldonados defense ended up with him running into another car (yet again).

You really dont see ANY differences there?

A. There was no room for Maldonado in Valencia because Lewis left no room for him by going wide on the exit and pushing him off the track. Mind you, the line Lewis took was not the racing line, as the next corner was a tight left. Watch Vettel's pole lap for example. To clarify, I'm talking about the first part of that incident, where Maldonado was pushed off the track, not when he rejoined onto Lewis.

B. Lewis did not trash Maldonado on that corner because Maldonado went off the track. Had Perez done the same today there would have been no crash.

From the regulations point of view, I don't see ANY difference at all. You either have to leave room for the overtaking car on the exit or you don't. If you don't, it should be Perez who should be punished today. If you do, Lewis should have also been questioned by the stewards in Valencia for running wide on the exit of the first corner and pushing Maldonado off the track!