Lotus E21 Renault

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Have no idea
Better pic

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A comparison

[Joie de vivre]

rbr is soooo much redefined =D>

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They ran the 'periscope' too

[Neno]

rbr is soooo much redefined =D>

clearly diffirent philoshophy. red bull trying to shrink their tunnel much as possible, and leave lots of clean space on rear.

lotus is trying to take whole advantage of tunnel, more like slit over whole space on rear, but trying not compromise much air around it.

because of this they have diffirent sidepods design, red bulls are small and compact just for that purpose, but lotus are more longer so from top it's seems red bull design is "redefined".

[andrewf1]

rbr is soooo much redefined =D>

clearly diffirent philoshophy. red bull trying to shrink their tunnel much as possible, and leave lots of clean space on rear.

it's a bit off-topic and maybe belonging in the Red Bull thread, but:

doesn't this design intent - of shrinking the tunnel as much as possible in order to have free air flowing to the back - basically translate to achieving what the mclaren version of exhausts have been doing all along?

isn't it like chipping away from a compromise in the design?

[andrewf1]

*double post, sorry*

[Neno]

rbr is soooo much redefined =D>

clearly diffirent philoshophy. red bull trying to shrink their tunnel much as possible, and leave lots of clean space on rear.

it's a bit off-topic and maybe belonging in the Red Bull thread, but:

doesn't this design intent - of shrinking the tunnel as much as possible in order to have free air flowing to the back - basically translate to achieving what the mclaren version of exhausts have been doing all along?

isn't it like chipping away from a compromise in the design?

from what i did see, red bull between beam wing and floor has couple of vertical slots who's purpose is creating "fake effect" of double diffuser- Why fake because is not connected with diffuser himself. i think red bull decided to feed rear end with similar amount air on those slots as it on tunnel. they shrinked tunnel to make more clean space to make air from sidepods and exaust come into this slots and make extra rear downforce. similar thing have ferrari with those slots with "ala mclaren solution".

if admins think this post dose not belong to Lotus E21 topic please move it into Red Bull topic

[stefan_]

Close-up of the airbox (brightened up a little bit)

[korzeniow]

from what i did see, red bull between beam wing and floor has couple of vertical slots who's purpose is creating "fake effect" of double diffuser- Why fake because is not connected with diffuser himself. i think red bull decided to feed rear end with similar amount air on those slots as it on tunnel. they shrinked tunnel to make more clean space to make air from sidepods and exaust come into this slots and make extra rear downforce. similar thing have ferrari with those slots with "ala mclaren solution".

if admins think this post dose not belong to Lotus E21 topic please move it into Red Bull topic

What vertical slots are you talking about? I have no idea. Do you have some photos?

[korzeniow]

Close-up of the airbox (brightened up a little bit)
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc17 ... f2d6e8.jpg

So, those aren't hidden channels, but some winglets to regulate airflow

[foxmulder_ms]

A comparison

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.ph ... u=14795526

Nice.. RB one looks more refined, really.

[Neno]

What vertical slots are you talking about? I have no idea. Do you have some photos?

http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/image ... 472625.jpg
http://www.formule1.nl/media/uploads/me ... 025.72.jpg

[beelsebob]

What vertical slots are you talking about? I have no idea. Do you have some photos?

http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/image ... 472625.jpg
http://www.formule1.nl/media/uploads/me ... 025.72.jpg

I'm not seeing what you're talking about still.

[stefan_]

What vertical slots are you talking about? I have no idea. Do you have some photos?

http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/image ... 472625.jpg
http://www.formule1.nl/media/uploads/me ... 025.72.jpg

I'm not seeing what you're talking about still.

I think he's talking about the fins on the floor that are above the diffuser area (fist pic - under the lower wishbone). But I don't know why he's talking about them in the E21 thread...