Pirelli 2013

Here are our CFD links and discussions about aerodynamics, suspension, driver safety and tyres. Please stick to F1 on this forum.
fiohaa
fiohaa
8
Joined: 19 Apr 2012, 21:18

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

Huntresa wrote:
fiohaa wrote:Hamilton: "I CANT DRIVE AN SLOWER"

great racing yeh.
Yeah thats not Pirelli fault, thats mercs car sadly enough...

...thats not the point i was making.

User avatar
Pierce89
60
Joined: 21 Oct 2009, 18:38

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

Holm86 wrote:Pirelli sucks. This is F1. You should be able the drive the crap out of the car every single lap!!!
Alonso did. Why is everybody ignoring the fact that Ferrari wasn't having to save tires at all.?
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

ESPImperium
ESPImperium
64
Joined: 06 Apr 2008, 00:08
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

I just want something between what Bridgestone gave us in 2010 and what Pirelli gave us in 2011/2012. Tyres are too marginal now, teams are afraid to put too much downforce on the cars these days as it will punish tyres too much.

Thank F*** that we don't have Turn 9 at Istanbul Park these days as i think these Pirellis would do a USA 2005 style accident.

If Barcelona didn't have that diddly little chichane at the end of the lap, i think the Pirellis would have been killed around the final turn at 250Kmh and not 180Kmh as it is now. Even GP2 and GP3 are getting pissed off, more GP2 as they had the same compounds as F1 this weekend, and today their fastest lap was a 1:31.1 thats only 6 seconds slower than GUT and his fastest lap today.

F1s fastest needs to be 10 seconds faster than GP2s fastest.

Just my thoughts however. Feel free to agree to disagree.

stefan_
stefan_
696
Joined: 04 Feb 2012, 12:43
Location: Bucharest, Romania

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

The truth is that today the tyres were ridiculous.

Flat spot on Perez's hard tyre at the end of the race
Image
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

Sombrero
Sombrero
126
Joined: 22 Feb 2012, 20:18

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

Some day something bad will happen because of these tyres...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujzAwndIIYw[/youtube]
Last edited by Sombrero on 12 May 2013, 19:30, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
turbof1
Moderator
Joined: 19 Jul 2012, 21:36
Location: MountDoom CFD Matrix

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

stefan_ wrote:The truth is that today the tyres were ridiculous.

Flat spot on Perez's hard tyre at the end of the race
https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/849/pirellir.jpg
It looks worse then it is; don't forget they pick up marbles after crossing the finish line.
But... that big gap in the tyre? Not cool.
#AeroFrodo

Huntresa
Huntresa
54
Joined: 03 Dec 2011, 11:33

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

If we had tyres that lasted like 09/10 Bridgestone, would you have liked the racing then ? Cause Red Bull would have won every race by now this year if we had that Formula, is that more fun then this? And this isnt just my view, most experts know and agree that Red Bull have the best car and are at a disadvantage cause they cant utilize the car as they want, but at the same time i think its gr8 that we have another dimension( ofc not as extreme as in China ). They need to build cars that can actually go around on what they got, not on what they wish they had, and drivers need to srsly learn to use the tyres and handle them, and THAT IS GOOD, cause Pirelli supply young drivers so they properly learn how to handle soft tyres now, something that we lost during the years upto 2013.

VIZSLA
VIZSLA
1
Joined: 13 Jun 2012, 14:12
Location: Boston/Sarasota

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

Pirelli is now saying that they want to change compounds by The British race because Four stops confuses the fans.
Sad what F1 has become

radosav
radosav
23
Joined: 05 Feb 2012, 20:46

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

As i remember in 2011 Spanish GP was also 4-stop race. how come red bull didn't complain then, and how come fans weren't confused then???

VIZSLA
VIZSLA
1
Joined: 13 Jun 2012, 14:12
Location: Boston/Sarasota

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

radosav wrote:As i remember in 2011 Spanish GP was also 4-stop race. how come red bull didn't complain then, and how come fans weren't confused then???
It all depends on whose ox is being gored.

Huntresa
Huntresa
54
Joined: 03 Dec 2011, 11:33

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

radosav wrote:As i remember in 2011 Spanish GP was also 4-stop race. how come red bull didn't complain then, and how come fans weren't confused then???
I think Pirelli has said every season the aim is 2-3 stops never 4 or higher, as they always say like Canada in 2010 when the Bridgestone tyres deliverd the best they ever did :D

VIZSLA
VIZSLA
1
Joined: 13 Jun 2012, 14:12
Location: Boston/Sarasota

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

Huntresa wrote:
radosav wrote:As i remember in 2011 Spanish GP was also 4-stop race. how come red bull didn't complain then, and how come fans weren't confused then???
I think Pirelli has said every season the aim is 2-3 stops never 4 or higher, as they always say like Canada in 2010 when the Bridgestone tyres deliverd the best they ever did :D
The appropriate number of stops should be determined by the race.
Not vice versa.

Huntresa
Huntresa
54
Joined: 03 Dec 2011, 11:33

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

VIZSLA wrote:
Huntresa wrote:
radosav wrote:As i remember in 2011 Spanish GP was also 4-stop race. how come red bull didn't complain then, and how come fans weren't confused then???
I think Pirelli has said every season the aim is 2-3 stops never 4 or higher, as they always say like Canada in 2010 when the Bridgestone tyres deliverd the best they ever did :D
The appropriate number of stops should be determined by the race.
Not vice versa.
But at the same time they are orderd to make a tyre that will produce 2-3 stops everywhere. And they themself dont even want 4 cause its to many.

VIZSLA
VIZSLA
1
Joined: 13 Jun 2012, 14:12
Location: Boston/Sarasota

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

And therein the madness lies.

Huntresa
Huntresa
54
Joined: 03 Dec 2011, 11:33

Re: Pirelli 2013

Post

VIZSLA wrote:And therein the madness lies.
Idd, and also that Red Bull are the loudest of the teams in their vocals about getting a harder tyre so THEY can use their car to the max, while after today i dont think Ferrari are especially miffed since Alonso and Massa drove if not 100% atleast 98%, and that showed, especially on the way Alonso did this race.

"We would look for Silverstone, but you have to bear in mind that we have a lot of teams against it and just one maybe for,"

Thats Hemberys words after the race when speaking bout maybe changing for Silverstone.