Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery has repeated at Korea that F1's sole tyre suppliers need to have more relevant tyre testing if it is to develop solid and reliable tyres for the 2014 season.
I don't understand why Pirelli requested the help of Mercedes, but not tell the FIA about it, why are other teams only finding out about it now? makes no sense.Bomber_Pilot wrote:Interesting article by Autosport: "Mercedes in 'secret' Pirelli tyre test row"
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107671
Apparently Mercedes was asked by Pirelli to help them work through the issues that Pirelli experienced in the last few races, so they conducted a 'secret' 1000 kilometre tyre test at Barcelona after the last race.
Yeah and its a bigger issue now then it was then even if it was a issue back then aswell, i never said it wasnt but the amount of downforce you have today and the amount you lose today is gr8er then it was back then, back then you couldnt rely on the aero like you do today.Losing downforce when following another car isn't a recent phenomena. It's been a factor since wings were first introduced.
Its intresting how ppl somehow think Hankook will do a different tyre compared to that off Pirelli when its the exact same ppl running the F1 show now as it was in 2010...SectorOne wrote:Bye bye Pirelli. Very nice job with the last tires artificially penalizing the best cars on the grid and letting subpar cars completely dominate the races.
Welcome Hankook, i look forward to your contribution.
It's not outside the rules though. It is strange that they didn't tell the FIA (if true) but if you are a tyre manufacturer and want to get to the bottom of why your tyres degrade so much when overworked, surely you would choose to work with the team that is overworking the tyres the most?Dyanxx wrote:I don't understand why Pirelli requested the help of Mercedes, but not tell the FIA about it, why are other teams only finding out about it now? makes no sense.Bomber_Pilot wrote:Interesting article by Autosport: "Mercedes in 'secret' Pirelli tyre test row"
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107671
Apparently Mercedes was asked by Pirelli to help them work through the issues that Pirelli experienced in the last few races, so they conducted a 'secret' 1000 kilometre tyre test at Barcelona after the last race.
If Red Bull or Ferrari had performed such a test then they would get away with only a slap on the wrist, but because it's Mercedes, I'm expecting some kind of punishment.
According to the autosport article the rule is implied to be that they can select one team, not all.Cam wrote:Why not all the teams? The way you prevent bias is to not give one team an advantage or disadvantage. I'm sure, if asked, all teams would have happily stayed to give feedback. That is the issue.
According to this article Ferrari have already had a test with Pirelli after the Bahrain GP, and they seem fine at coping with the tyres, so I don't understand the big issue here.stefan_ wrote:Even if it was legal (and it seems it is) to call a team and to do a private test, it is a very poor decision for Pirelli to call Mercedes. After all the controversies and talks regartding tyres, durabilty, degradation, teams who don't have a clue how to make the car work with the tyres you call for a private test a team that it is well known for struggling with the tyres. I would have called Caterham or Marussia - of course they don't have the best car (not that Mercedes is the best) but they still have 4 wheels, an engine, a driver and a team capable of gathering data.
This whole thing smells fishy. And I don't like fish.
According to that article "it is believed" that Ferrari made a test (the talks are that they used the 2010 car and it was for the GP2 tyres). Then why wasn't any fuss about it, considering the fact that RB are the first ones who make noise in cases like this and Ferrari are their direct opponents in the championship?Dyanxx wrote:According to this article Ferrari have already had a test with Pirelli after the Bahrain GP, and they seem fine at coping with the tyres, so I don't understand the big issue here.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/05/ ... e-testing/
Huge difference with Ferrari using the F150 and Mercedes using this years car. Don't see the difference there?Dyanxx wrote: According to this article Ferrari have already had a test with Pirelli after the Bahrain GP, and they seem fine at coping with the tyres, so I don't understand the big issue here.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/05/ ... e-testing/
