Pirelli 2013

[Tim.Wright]

I wouldn't take that to the bank WB, Pirelli has most obviously found the sweet-spot tire-wise for Mercedes, which of course is the "Ferrari" of our times to the powers that may be, why change that?

I really don't understand why you are constantly pushing this Pirelli-Bernie-Mercedes thing. Yes Mercedes fücked up by testing outside the rules, but to continue to think that its a conspiracy involving the commercial right holder is quite pathetic. Especially since there is no real proof of this, only a load of circumstancial speculation by yourself.

[Cam]

It seems a lot funny. When RedBull and Merc' eat their tyres and blame Pirelli, people say it's same for every body. Now if pirelli are choosing Mediums and hard, It's same for every body. Ferrari and Lotus should stop complaining and put flames in their tyres to heat them up.

Its not same for everybody when Pirelli chooses to go with harder compounds cause Red Bull and others complained, that changes the board into their favor, so no not same for everyone.

You really can't have it both ways. The same rules and tyres apply for all and Lotus were quite happy to state where to look if your car struggled. This was plainly pointed out when it was suggested the tyres were altered at the end of each season to hamper Red Bull and increase the show.

“As with every season, some teams do a better job than others with their designs, and some drivers are more adaptable than others to the changes of both car and tyre.

If Lotus designed a car that is not good on hard tyres - that's their fault.
Red Bull found middle ground and developed around it, so did Merc, so can Lotus.

[Huntresa]

There is no point to speculate about it. It is already decided that in 2014 operating windows for tyres will be much wider.
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I wouldn't take that to the bank WB, Pirelli has most obviously found the sweet-spot tire-wise for Mercedes, which of course is the "Ferrari" of our times to the powers that may be, why change that?

Cause they have alrdy said that they will make wider tyres and harder tyres. Its not a secret and its not a speculation.

[Huntresa]

You really can't have it both ways. The same rules and tyres apply for all and Lotus were quite happy to state where to look if your car struggled. This was plainly pointed out when it was suggested the tyres were altered at the end of each season to hamper Red Bull and increase the show.

Well Pirelli gets an order of making soft tyres, who ever did the ordering i cant speak of and motives behind that but if they do what they are told there why do they then suddenly break under complaints from certain teams when they are just delivering what they were orderd to with no tyres testing.

[muhammadtalha-13]

It seems a lot funny. When RedBull and Merc' eat their tyres and blame Pirelli, people say it's same for every body. Now if pirelli are choosing Mediums and hard, It's same for every body. Ferrari and Lotus should stop complaining and put flames in their tyres to heat them up.

Its not same for everybody when Pirelli chooses to go with harder compounds cause Red Bull and others complained, that changes the board into their favor, so no not same for everyone.

Well i think you are seriously wrong. Pirelli are making conservative tyre choices because of barcelona race where there were too many stops. i.e. 4. Now tell me who did 4 stops? RedBull? No. Ferrari did it. So ferrari SHOULD benefit from conservative tyres. Hope you get my point.

[SectorOne]

If Lotus designed a car that is not good on hard tyres - that's their fault.
Red Bull found middle ground and developed around it, so did Merc, so can Lotus.

Lotus apparently designed their car to be one second off pace on hard compound.

Or nobody designed their car for anything and it´s simply the DNA and a coin toss that made Ferrari and Lotus quick on race day and Red Bull and Merc quickest on low fuel because they have the most downforce and mechanical grip.

[lebesset]

I see alonso has been told to withdraw his complaints about pirelli , presumably because it just doesn't add up

in his latest interview he apparently says ....nothing to do with the tyres , it's the car

of course , he could also have added I'm not a great qualifier

[Huntresa]

It seems a lot funny. When RedBull and Merc' eat their tyres and blame Pirelli, people say it's same for every body. Now if pirelli are choosing Mediums and hard, It's same for every body. Ferrari and Lotus should stop complaining and put flames in their tyres to heat them up.

Its not same for everybody when Pirelli chooses to go with harder compounds cause Red Bull and others complained, that changes the board into their favor, so no not same for everyone.

Well i think you are seriously wrong. Pirelli are making conservative tyre choices because of barcelona race where there were too many stops. i.e. 4. Now tell me who did 4 stops? RedBull? No. Ferrari did it. So ferrari SHOULD benefit from conservative tyres. Hope you get my point.

And we had 4 stops in Barcelona 2 years ago aswell, did anyone complain then ? Did Pirelli make more conservative moves ?

Barcelona eats tyres, wheter its soft or hard, thats just a fact of that track! Not a fact of the tyres!

[Huntresa]

And there it is, the testing ban and teams childish behavoiur over not switching tires to safer ones Re resulting in this....

[Javert]

What utterly --- tires they have brought to Silverstone

Horryfying

[Huntresa]

What utterly --- tires they have brought to Silverstone

Horryfying

What do you expect with no tire testing ???

[stefan_]

They tested for 2013 last year in a couple of practice sessions.

[Huntresa]

They tested for 2013 last year in a couple of practice sessions.

They tested it once at Brazil, hardly enough to catch these issues

[stefan_]

They tested for 2013 last year in a couple of practice sessions.

They tested it once at Brazil, hardly enough to catch these issues

Then why didn't they take a team for a 1000km run last year?

[GTSpeedster]

Thank God Pirelli doesn't make condoms...