Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery has repeated at Korea that F1's sole tyre suppliers need to have more relevant tyre testing if it is to develop solid and reliable tyres for the 2014 season.
Not necessarily, the Pirelli car doesn't need to be legal. They can bolt on anything they want that gives the required axle loads. I often wonder why they haven't done this before.autogyro wrote: ...TMG would then only have to ask Adrian Newey for the latest model aeroplane parts to keep up to speed on the chassis.
Well it aint rocket science.Not necessarily, the Pirelli car doesn't need to be legal. They can bolt on anything they want that gives the required axle loads. I often wonder why they haven't done this before.
This is shaping up nicely. I have no doubt that Michelin can all do it in three months time. They have the technology, the expirience, the molds and the protection of a French FiA president. So it is all a question of how the power play around F1 shakes out. With Ecclestone being tied up in Germany from mid September it would be the perfect opportunity for Todt to land a big coup ahead of the elections.Sport 360 wrote:Michelin, though, are open to a return, according to Pascal Couasnon, who directs the manufacturers' competition unit."Our position is now known. If they are willing to talk... we are ready to do so," he said, before adding that discussions concluded before the end of October if the FIA want them to supply tyres for next season.
Second guessing what teams come up with BEFORE they come up is perhaps not as easy as you portray.Tim.Wright wrote:Not necessarily, the Pirelli car doesn't need to be legal. They can bolt on anything they want that gives the required axle loads. I often wonder why they haven't done this before.autogyro wrote: ...TMG would then only have to ask Adrian Newey for the latest model aeroplane parts to keep up to speed on the chassis.
Pirelli are cheap *******!autogyro wrote:Well it aint rocket science.Not necessarily, the Pirelli car doesn't need to be legal. They can bolt on anything they want that gives the required axle loads. I often wonder why they haven't done this before.
Michelin makes contact with FIA
ESPN Staff August 26, 2013
Michelin has made contact with the FIA to confirm it could be willing to supply tyres in 2014 if changes to the regulations were made.
Rumours that Michelin was seeking a return to Formula One were growing throughout the weekend at Spa-Francorchamps, with Pirelli yet to sign a contract to continue supplying tyres beyond the end of this season. In an interview with Le Figaro, Michelin director of competition Pascal Couasnon confirmed the tyre manufacturer had made the FIA aware of its position.
"We have already sent [the FIA] messages, and the general public also," Couasnon said. "Our position is known. If they are willing to discuss, to see how we can use and present the tyre differently we are ready to do so.
"I can confirm: there is no rendezvous planned with Bernie Ecclestone ... If there should be discussions, they will lead with the FIA, with Bernie Ecclestone, but also in the company of the teams."
Having said he was surprised rumours had surfaced, Couasnon warned that the current format of rapidly degrading tyres did not interest Michelin.
"I was surprised by this announcement, but I'm starting to get used to it. Two weeks ago, I read that we should hold a press conference to announce some things. However, there is nothing going on ... Formula 1 is a world where there are many rumours. Besides, I do not know who might have interest in the launch. What is true, however, is that we are present in Rally and Endurance racing and soon Formula E. Of course we follow F1 closely but the way in which it is presented today we do not like at all. It disappoints me and even makes me almost angry. Changing a tyre after a few laps, or even a few turns, does not offer a beautiful image of an important product for the automotive industry."
Couasnon also said that one of the areas the FIA would need to compromise on would be changing the current wheel size, and admitted time was running out to do a deal for 2014.
"One of the challenges will be to bring a bigger tyre to the vehicle. If F1 is ready to move to the format of 18-inch rims, we'll go running! This is assuredly one of the conditions for a strong commitment.
"There is necessarily a time limit or it will not be possible. It has to leave us the physical time to produce tyres. Let's say the end of October; it may be too late ..."
This almost made me cryWilliamsF1 wrote:MICHELIN: It disappoints me and even makes me almost angry. Changing a tyre after a few laps, or even a few turns, does not offer a beautiful image of an important product for the automotive industry."
I beg you Michelin, please just make a deal. 
What in the world makes you think that Michelin or Goodyear or anyone else would show a different result if they were told to make the same tire? Quit blaming Pirelli and blame the FIA and Bernie.This almost made me cry I beg you Michelin, please just make a deal.
Being practical and making sense around here is a huge waste of time.strad wrote:What in the world makes you think that Michelin or Goodyear or anyone else would show a different result if they were told to make the same tire? Quit blaming Pirelli and blame the FIA and Bernie.This almost made me cry I beg you Michelin, please just make a deal.
IF they ask Pirelli to make a tire that would last the whole race they could just as easily do that.
We got what was asked for.
As I recall Michelin have the dubious honour of being the last (only?) tyre supplier whose cars were withdrawn due to unsafe tyres, despite unlimited testing. That episode was an order worse than the current Pirelli safety concerns.strad wrote:What in the world makes you think that Michelin or Goodyear or anyone else would show a different resultThis almost made me cry I beg you Michelin, please just make a deal.
Then again: Pirelli never had to drive up the banking of Indianapolis. Concerning image it was more damaging.richard_leeds wrote:As I recall Michelin have the dubious honour of being the last (only?) tyre supplier whose cars were withdrawn due to unsafe tyres, despite unlimited testing. That episode was an order worse than the current Pirelli safety concerns.strad wrote:What in the world makes you think that Michelin or Goodyear or anyone else would show a different resultThis almost made me cry I beg you Michelin, please just make a deal.
