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zioture wrote:Look here nolder small vent on the central


What?

Do you mean they have some kind of gurney attached to the hot air exits? If yes, then well spotted, haven't realized it's there up until now...

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RZS10 wrote:
zioture wrote:Look here nolder small vent on the central


What?

Do you mean they have some kind of gurney attached to the hot air exits? If yes, then well spotted, haven't realized it's there up until now...
Yes

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RZS10 wrote:
zioture wrote:Look here nolder small vent on the central


What?

Do you mean they have some kind of gurney attached to the hot air exits? If yes, then well spotted, haven't realized it's there up until now...
I post for you old version

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Holm86 wrote:As far as I can see the McLaren doesnt feature at starter hole either.
I thought cars had to have a starter motor this year?
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Maybe they fitted a starter motor - plenty of juice on board :P


Edit - sorry thought you said SMH above..
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Gridlock wrote:Maybe they fitted a starter motor - plenty of juice on board :P


Edit - sorry thought you said SMH above..
With the weight penalty, I doubt it. I guess it's possible they are using the ERS motor to start the engine?

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Diesel wrote:
Gridlock wrote:Maybe they fitted a starter motor - plenty of juice on board :P


Edit - sorry thought you said SMH above..
With the weight penalty, I doubt it. I guess it's possible they are using the ERS motor to start the engine?
The MGU-K is plenty powerful enough to start the engine. So thats what I thought as well.

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I don't think they'll miss out on the start motor hole; it's an obvious aero benefit.
#AeroFrodo

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zioture wrote:Look here nolder small vent on the central
Old version
http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... em_old.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg1Xgs-CYAAtFWY.jpg
Already mentioned here - http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 61#p486761

It looks like the body work is bend up on the edge...
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turbof1 wrote:I don't think they'll miss out on the start motor hole; it's an obvious aero benefit.
https://twitter.com/ScarbsF1/status/436111349660147713

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Mr.G wrote:
zioture wrote:Look here nolder small vent on the central
Old version
http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... em_old.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg1Xgs-CYAAtFWY.jpg
Already mentioned here - http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 61#p486761

It looks like the body work is bend up on the edge...
ah, yeah ...

look at ziotures lower pic, it's not just bend upwards, there's also a gurney on the inner side

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I don't find any clue why not to use MGU-K as engine starter.

5.20 Starting the engine :
A supplementary device temporarily connected to the car may be(not "must be") used to start the engine both on the grid and in the pits.
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Winter Testing 2014 - Session 2, Day 1 - Bahrain (19.02.2014)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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A technical explanation of the nolders at the back of the mp4-29, altough is in italian.

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/34840/ ... arua-calda
La McLaren ha montato due nolder sulle estremità degli sfoghi d'aria calda in coda alla MP4-29: i tecnici diretti da Tim Goss hanno iniziato a introdurre piccoli sviluppi sulla macchina di Woking che sta macinando chilometri con il debuttante Kevin Magnussen.

Il giovane danese ha già coperto 43 tornate nella mattinata, alternandosi al comando della lista dei tempi. Nell'immagine si possono notare le due labbra aggiuntive che servono a deviare i flussi che lambiscono la carrozzeria lungo i vistosi sfoghi d'aria. Trattandosi di Sakhir di una pista che richiede un buon carico aerodinamico, questo esperimento serve a verificare se si può incrementare la forza verticale senza penalizzare troppo l'efficienza della macchina che ha già le "tapparelle" della sospensione posteriore a creare una sorta di "muro" aerodinamico che varia a seconda degli scuotimenti dei bracci (quello inferiore e quello di incidenza).

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mclaren_mircea wrote:A technical explanation of the nolders at the back of the mp4-29, altough is in italian.

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/34840/ ... arua-calda
La McLaren ha montato due nolder sulle estremità degli sfoghi d'aria calda in coda alla MP4-29: i tecnici diretti da Tim Goss hanno iniziato a introdurre piccoli sviluppi sulla macchina di Woking che sta macinando chilometri con il debuttante Kevin Magnussen.

Il giovane danese ha già coperto 43 tornate nella mattinata, alternandosi al comando della lista dei tempi. Nell'immagine si possono notare le due labbra aggiuntive che servono a deviare i flussi che lambiscono la carrozzeria lungo i vistosi sfoghi d'aria. Trattandosi di Sakhir di una pista che richiede un buon carico aerodinamico, questo esperimento serve a verificare se si può incrementare la forza verticale senza penalizzare troppo l'efficienza della macchina che ha già le "tapparelle" della sospensione posteriore a creare una sorta di "muro" aerodinamico che varia a seconda degli scuotimenti dei bracci (quello inferiore e quello di incidenza).
It is the same picture I posted Omincorse have canceled the red arrows, you can see something of red in pic