2015 Pre-season Testing

[ismail1991]

Last year's pole time was a 1:25.232, granted it was quite warm that day so of course the cars and the track itself would be quite a bit slower than in the relatively cool weather we're currently having would allow

So Raikkonen already faster than this.

Not that surprising since we're supposed to be expecting cars 2, possibly 3, secs faster than last year but worth also pointing out that Kimi (and Ferrari's) best time in quali last year was 01:26.960, so he's already nearly two secs up on that.

Pretty impressive for a first day, whatever the other teams are going to end up capable of.

We seem to forget Qualifying is done with a race-distance fuel load. Maybe kimi was on low fuel during that lap

[turbof1]

That is not correct. Q is allowed to be done with as minimal fuel as you can get away with. The rule you mentioned ended after 2009.

[f1316]

Last year's pole time was a 1:25.232, granted it was quite warm that day so of course the cars and the track itself would be quite a bit slower than in the relatively cool weather we're currently having would allow

So Raikkonen already faster than this.

Not that surprising since we're supposed to be expecting cars 2, possibly 3, secs faster than last year but worth also pointing out that Kimi (and Ferrari's) best time in quali last year was 01:26.960, so he's already nearly two secs up on that.

Pretty impressive for a first day, whatever the other teams are going to end up capable of.

We seem to forget Qualifying is done with a race-distance fuel load. Maybe kimi was on low fuel during that lap

Huh? In 2014? Don't think so...

Edit: Exactly Turbo

[ismail1991]

That is not correct. Q is allowed to be done with as minimal fuel as you can get away with. The rule you mentioned ended after 2009.

Then, sorry for my mistake. In that case, maybe softer tires compared to last year can explain Kimi's lap.

[f1316]

That is not correct. Q is allowed to be done with as minimal fuel as you can get away with. The rule you mentioned ended after 2009.

Then, sorry for my mistake. In that case, maybe softer tires compared to last year can explain Kimi's lap.

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the Pirelli compounds were very similar this year to last - they will *seem* more agressive because the new cars will put them under more pressure, but should be much the same (again, correct me if I'm wrong).

Why can't it be that Kimi's lap is explained by Ferrari having a much better car than last year?

[turbof1]

Maybe. I think the issue is that it's much colder now. In the past this usually always resulted in faster times during winter testing in Barcelona then when the actual race happens.

And of course performance gains.

[Chene_Mostert]

That is not correct. Q is allowed to be done with as minimal fuel as you can get away with. The rule you mentioned ended after 2009.

Then, sorry for my mistake. In that case, maybe softer tires compared to last year can explain Kimi's lap.

No, maybe Power unit and chassis improvements can explain Kimi's lap...

[ismail1991]

That is not correct. Q is allowed to be done with as minimal fuel as you can get away with. The rule you mentioned ended after 2009.

Then, sorry for my mistake. In that case, maybe softer tires compared to last year can explain Kimi's lap.

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the Pirelli compounds were very similar this year to last - they will *seem* more agressive because the new cars will put them under more pressure, but should be much the same (again, correct me if I'm wrong).

Why can't it be that Kimi's lap is explained by Ferrari having a much better car than last year?

Yes , it can be explained by Ferrari having a much better car. However, being a Mercedes fan , I am trying to comfort myself by making up some explanations.

[Jonnycraig]

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[Vasconia]

Mclarens day is has been a pity, they were running well, making good progress. Its clear that reliabilty will be an issue with Honda, I hope at lest the engine has power and strength. Hopefully Alonso will do at least 20-40 laps tomorrow until the problem re-appears again.

I haven seen the incident, but come one, those things happens from time to time, some people give more importance to it only because Wolf is involved, I dont think that this is very fair.

[Chene_Mostert]

That is not correct. Q is allowed to be done with as minimal fuel as you can get away with. The rule you mentioned ended after 2009.

Then, sorry for my mistake. In that case, maybe softer tires compared to last year can explain Kimi's lap.

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the Pirelli compounds were very similar this year to last - they will *seem* more agressive because the new cars will put them under more pressure, but should be much the same (again, correct me if I'm wrong).

Why can't it be that Kimi's lap is explained by Ferrari having a much better car than last year?

Yes , it can be explained by Ferrari having a much better car. However, being a Mercedes fan , I am trying to comfort myself by making up some explanations.[/quote]

And I guess that from 2007 to 2012 you were a McLaren fan

[f1316]

Maybe. I think the issue is that it's much colder now. In the past this usually always resulted in faster times during winter testing in Barcelona then when the actual race happens.

And of course performance gains.

Shouldn't it be easier to get the tyre in the right operating window in warmer conditions?

My impression was that winter testing often produced quicker laps than quali because they might be on super softs, for example, but here we're looking at mediums in colder conditions vs softs in warmer.

Or is that they're able to run everything (PU etc.) 'hotter' given colder conditions?

[ismail1991]

And I guess that from 2007 to 2012 you were a McLaren fan

No, I'm supporting Mercedes from the day they returned to the F1 because Michael Schumacher would drive it. Up to that time I had been supporting Ferrari because of again Michael Schumacher

[santos]

Why some people are always trying to find a justification for Ferrari to be quick? Or it's because it have low fuel, or it's cold, or it's hot, or it's because the others are not pushing hard... The fastest lap from Kimi today is 2 sec faster then last year in quali. Maybe, but just maybe the Ferrari it is indeed faster then last year.

[Jordan44]

Why some people are always trying to find a justification for Ferrari to be quick? Or it's because it have low fuel, or it's cold, or it's hot, or it's because the others are not pushing hard... The fastest lap from Kimi today is 2 sec faster then last year in quali. Maybe, but just maybe the Ferrari it is indeed faster then last year.

Of course Ferrari are faster than last year. They haven't sat all winter doing nothing. People aren't saying that, they're just saying it's unrealistic to judge testing. They're referring to the pace relative to the other teams. Just look at last year, Mercedes never finished top in any of the sessions. There's clearly more to come from them.