2015 Pre-season Testing

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WilliamsF1 wrote:
WilliamsF1 wrote:
Chene_Mostert wrote:
So after all of this, would you say Ferrari made progress?

Made progress if they can do those laptimes on 2 fliers. Jeraz they were doing the fast laps on every alternate lap suggesting they needed a lap to charge the ERS
Or they give the tyres a breather, quite a common practice with most teams.
They had ERS charge problems last year, don't you think they have identified it and rectified? Or have they somehow managed overlooked this very important deficit?

It was not a problem to charge the ERS but to get enough energy from ERS-H to drive the ERS-K continuously; Ferrari depended on energy stored in the battery which was charged to full on ever alternate laps[/quote]

Like I said: charge problems. But anyway thank you for repeating what I said :shock:
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16:34 Raikkonen has caught and passed Wehrlein on track, and that's quite symbolic.

The two look to be on very similar runs, and the Ferrari's laptimes are more impressive

- Autosport


Again, not saying Ferrari are the fastest time - I fully expect Mercedes to be - just saying that they have clearly improved markedly. I personally think to already be doing 2 secs faster on the first day of Barca testing on harder tyres is impressive (even if it turns out other teams have improved just as much).

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giantfan10 wrote:
Chene_Mostert wrote:
WilliamsF1 wrote:
So after all of this, would you say Ferrari made progress?

Made progress if they can do those laptimes on 2 fliers. Jeraz they were doing the fast laps on every alternate lap suggesting they needed a lap to charge the ERS
Or they give the tyres a breather, quite a common practice with most teams.
They had ERS charge problems last year, don't you think they have identified it and rectified? Or have they somehow managed overlooked this very important deficit?
you should have paid attention to the screen name of the poster of this original comment... i think thats the team and fan base thats the most worried about Ferrari getting their 2015 car right.....IMHO if Ferrari and Red bull get their ERS and PU on a decent level Williams will be right back into the midfield fighting for 6th and 7th.
what baffles me the most about some fans perspective is that the obvious mercedes PU dominance has suddenly bled over into being a conversation about how great the williams and mercedes aerodynamics are. just saying a brick with a twin turbo v8 will beat a car with perfect aerodynamics and a 1 litre 4 banger.....just food for thought : )
then we have the other point of view that everyone at ferrari is clueless and only genuises reside in the mercedes camp....pretty interesting how being the only team in the field that got their PU right in a year with new rules has suddenly elevated mercedes to this untouchable entity in formula one[/quote]



Yes, Merc had a perfect start to 2014 and their advantage was guaranteed to remain due to the engine freeze rule. with competitors allowed to change 48% of the PU for 2015 things will be a lot more competitive considering the restrictive design regulations for the PU's. there is only a finite amount of power that can be gained from the current rule restrictions, and I would say that in 2014 Merc was at 97% potential and others at 87-92% this year the entire field will be between 98 & 99%, split turbo or not.
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kptaylor wrote:Does anyone think that the Mercedes drivers "illnesses" today were a ploy to get the FI drivers some track time? Be ill and get Wehrlein back into the Merc, freeing up seat time for Sergio/Hulk?
No.
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Not a bad day for the 17y old :wink: .

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How many laps have each team done?
Felipe Baby!

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santos wrote:
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santos wrote:Why some people are always trying to find a justification for Ferrari to be quick? Or it's because it have low fuel, or it's cold, or it's hot, or it's because the others are not pushing hard... The fastest lap from Kimi today is 2 sec faster then last year in quali. Maybe, but just maybe the Ferrari it is indeed faster then last year.
Of course Ferrari are faster than last year. They haven't sat all winter doing nothing. People aren't saying that, they're just saying it's unrealistic to judge testing. They're referring to the pace relative to the other teams. Just look at last year, Mercedes never finished top in any of the sessions. There's clearly more to come from them.
That's not true...

Bahrain test 1 recap – February 19-22:

Combined times from all four-days:
1. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1.33.283 (174 laps)
2. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1.34.263 (141 laps)
3. Kevin Magnussen, McLaren, 1.34.910 (127 laps)
4. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1.34.957 (169 laps)
5. Nico Hulkenberg, Force India, 1.36.445 (137 laps)
6. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1.36.516 (160 laps)
7. Kimi Räikkönen, Ferrari, 1.36.718 (125 laps)
The funny thing about this is, Rosebrg's fastest time that he did in Bahrain test 1 was almost exactly the same time that he did in Q3 in Bahrain - 1:33.185. So last year Mercedes definitely pushed in the second pre-season test. I think they will show their real pace when Rosberg and Hamilton drive the car in the next few days.

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Maldonado on top?!?!
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godlameroso wrote:Maldonado on top?!?!
Yup! So Lotus has improved even more than Ferrari :wink: He did a 1m25.011s
SiLo wrote:How many laps have each team done?
Toro Rosso - Verstappen 94
Williams - Wolff 86
Sauber - Nasr 79
Ferrari - Raikkonen 74
Lotus - Maldonado 69
Red Bull - Ricciardo 59
Wehrlein (Mercedes) 48
Force India - Perez 34
Wehrlein (Force India) 32
McLaren - Button 21
Mercedes - Hamilton 11
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Morteza wrote:
godlameroso wrote:Maldonado on top?!?!
Yup! So Lotus has improved even more than Ferrari :wink: He did a 1m25.011s
On softs :D

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Morteza wrote:
godlameroso wrote:Maldonado on top?!?!
Yup! So Lotus has improved even more than Ferrari :wink: He did a 1m25.011s
Who would have thought that Lotus would improve over 2014? :mrgreen:

What a bummer! Seriously, guys, it's testing, we don't know fuel loads, don't know who's pushing and who's not.

The only thing we can conclude from the testing is the reliability

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McMrocks wrote:
Morteza wrote:
godlameroso wrote:Maldonado on top?!?!
Yup! So Lotus has improved even more than Ferrari :wink: He did a 1m25.011s
Who would have thought that Lotus would improve over 2014? :mrgreen:

What a bummer! Seriously, guys, it's testing, we don't know fuel loads, don't know who's pushing and who's not.

The only thing we can conclude from the testing is the reliability
Not even that, a team can be reliable on testing and have all kind of problems during season, Mercedes last year weren't the example of reliability but on testing they were.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 16394.html

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McMrocks wrote:
Morteza wrote:
godlameroso wrote:Maldonado on top?!?!
Yup! So Lotus has improved even more than Ferrari :wink: He did a 1m25.011s
Who would have thought that Lotus would improve over 2014? :mrgreen:

What a bummer! Seriously, guys, it's testing, we don't know fuel loads, don't know who's pushing and who's not.

The only thing we can conclude from the testing is the reliability
No
We can also conclude that last year Lotus was not in a position to do a 1:25, this year the have done a 1:25 even if it was a low fuel run, it is still faster than their 2013 Q3 low fuel run..... Testing times always had and always will have significance to the real experts, else why time testing?
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Sauber & Williams were called to explain the earlier collision.

Spanked backside for Wolff. Somebody check the offices for signs of Max Mosley..

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Chene_Mostert wrote:We can also conclude that last year Lotus was not in a position to do a 1:25
Well, there was a test in 2014...
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 89#p561489
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