2015 Canadian Grand Prix - 5-7 June

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iotar__ wrote: "You must be watching", is this your only argument? Name a single penalty like that. I gave you an example from the real world and how it's handled: they gave 20 s for Karthikeyan for Vettel driving into him. That's the benchmark for lapped cars. Give me your example. I repeat: bunch of no talents needed points and they jumped at it. Explain how is Ricciardo-Monaco not causing collision, how is Raikkonen stopping Magnussen in Monaco '14 not causing and this is??
Stick to this race and admit you got both calls wrong.

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Maybe rosberg just drove more conservative at the beginning on the heavier car... The gap was bigger then, so perhaps Lewis just drove closer to the limit is my guess.
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2 races in a row now that Kvyat has been in a different series to Ricciardo.

The myth well and truly busted.

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I can also only assume Kimi screwed his tyres after his spin, they didn't think he could make it to the end and that's why they stopped him again. Because he just got the gap to Bottas down to 1.045 sec (I think) to Bottas when they pitted him, so seemed odd to then give him a mountain to climb if not.

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multisync wrote:
iotar__ wrote: "You must be watching", is this your only argument? Name a single penalty like that. I gave you an example from the real world and how it's handled: they gave 20 s for Karthikeyan for Vettel driving into him. That's the benchmark for lapped cars. Give me your example. I repeat: bunch of no talents needed points and they jumped at it. Explain how is Ricciardo-Monaco not causing collision, how is Raikkonen stopping Magnussen in Monaco '14 not causing and this is??
Stick to this race and admit you got both calls wrong.
Still no arguments? No I was not wrong unless stewards were always wrong in those situations, that's why you need other examples not run away from them. No examples then :twisted: ? I have another one: remember how they gave a penalty to Sutil for driving at his own pace in front of Hamilton (I can find later where it was) ? He wasn't blocking or defending just drove in front of Hamilton, He got a drive through FFS for not disappearing, it wasn't close wheel to wheel, it was nothing. Now compare drive-through to 5 seconds for Button's ramming into Maldo at high speed.That's how it's handled: ignoring blue flags, Sutil, Kartikheyan and now Stevens. [OK found it: it was Canada '13.]

Since it was used as an argument, what choice did Vettel leave to Hulkenberg? Same as Grosjean but it was for position not lapped cars. It's ignoring blue flags: always.
Phil wrote:Maybe rosberg just drove more conservative at the beginning on the heavier car... The gap was bigger then, so perhaps Lewis just drove closer to the limit is my guess.
Letting Rosberg within a second? Come on, you know who was quicker today and what it was. This managing of competition by Mercedes is worse than mistakes like Monaco but since the right one is winning it's ignored. Surprisingly 'attack at the last lap" did not work but some day in a million years at the billionth attempt it will work, I'm sure of it. It's the best strategy for 2 drivers to not get close, nothing more.

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Jonnycraig wrote:2 races in a row now that Kvyat has been in a different series to Ricciardo.

The myth well and truly busted.
That´s one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that Ricciardo decimated Vettel and now Kvyat is showing signs of being stronger then Ricciardo.

Boy did Vettel dodge that one pretty good by joining Ferrari sharing a car with a completely finished Finn.
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Grosjean is a serious safety hazard for the other drivers on the track, he's adapting to Pastor a bit too much. Complete nutcase this Romain.

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iotar__ wrote:
Since it was used as an argument, what choice did Vettel leave to Hulkenberg? Same as Grosjean but it was for position not lapped cars. It's ignoring blue flags: always.
Just check the replays, stevens is just going straight and grosjean turn into the right front wing. It was a simple mistake, problem was he began whining like a spoiled brat on the radio. Embarrassing.

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What is the website where you can compare two drivers' lap times, throught the race, side by side?

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f1316 wrote:What is the website where you can compare two drivers' lap times, throught the race, side by side?
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/

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Nico has looked a little more competitive in the races so far than last year, besides Monaco, but I don't think that matters now if Lewis starts ahead of him. Can't help but feel the W06 is more comfortable to drive for Lewis because it was designed without FRIC, something which might have benefitted Nico more, meaning he is performing better in qualifying.

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I think Lewis was managing the gap.

(wasnt the best race)
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speedy56 wrote:
f1316 wrote:What is the website where you can compare two drivers' lap times, throught the race, side by side?
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/
Thanks! :)

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J0rd4n wrote: Yes, but Bono confirmed Nico was saving brakes, not fuel, during the middle stint. I'll rephrase it, Nico was never pressured by the team to save fuel. If he was they definitely would have played it out on the world feed.
If you're saving brakes then you're going to save fuel too. To save brakes you brake earlier and with less force so that the energy is dissipated over a longer time period and thus heats the system less. Braking earlier means coming off the throttle earlier so there is a saving in both brakes and fuel.
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AnthonyG wrote:Team against Hamilton
"Nico is equal on fuel as you, more critical on the brakes"

Team against Rosberg
"Nico can't tell,can't tell"

How will they penalise this?
Earlier they also relayed information on the fuel saving by Hamilton to Rosberg. Perhaps they have been warned by Charlie during the race to stop doing that.