2015 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

[jknights]

This is a rule and not a recommendation

John

Is it a new supplemental?
Are you sure?

[Schuttelberg]

I'm a Vettel fan and I dearly wanted him and Ferrari to win. I don't want it like this. The adrenaline was different post Malaysia and Hungary. Didn't appreciate the booing of LH either on the rostrum.

[SimRacer]

delete please

[Sevach]

[matt_b]

If it was such a safety concern why take the measurements, say nothing and let them race. I think they need to change their process going forward regardless out today's outcome.

[boyracer94]

Also Williams and Toyota were DQ'd in Canada '04 for running illegal brake ducts.

[kaller]

From the top of my head Schumacher was DQ in Spa in '94 over a couple of milliliters off the limit on his wood plank floor. The Mclarens were DQ from the 2000's Brazilian GP over a few millimeters in the rear wings as were there Saubers in the 2011's Australian Grand Prix... so there's nothing new about it.

That's because these are specified in the technical regulation of FIA. Tyre pressure is not, at least I cannot find it.

[ripper]

Hello, first post!

I'm an italian Ferrari supporter, but I totally agree with Schuttelberg.

Anyway Luca Filippi on italian SKY said that in GP2 two drivers were found with lower PSI than "recommended" during qualifying and their time were canceled.

[Just_a_fan]

Reminds me of the F1 from the 90s. Watch the race on Sunday, read the papers on Monday to discover the winner. Pathetic.

[turbof1]

As far as I'm concerned, this is either no penalty or a sporting infringement. There are no technical rules or directives telling about tyre pressures.

However, the sporting rules feature a catch-all rule due safety. Perhaps something the fia could use, but a dsq seems unlikely.

[SimRacer]

delete please

[jknights]

So how do they measure the tyre pressures on the grid?
If it is remotely then this is a process fraught with inaccuracy as each tyre is different. Hand crafted!
Also from theinterview with Pat Symmonds it seems that Pirelli make these rules up for each race.
WTF! Let's race on solid wooden tyres and get rid of Pirelli. This is pure rubbish!

[bhall II]

A technical directive regarding tire starting temps was circulated to all teams at Spa...

Formula 1 teams had already been warned about respecting tyre safety limits prior to Nico Rosberg's spectacular tyre failure in second practice at Spa.

The FIA's Charlie Whiting sent out a technical directive after Friday morning's FP1 session in which he underlined that the checks were related to safety.

Whiting went on to clarify that the parameters that will be checked were minimum starting pressure - front and rear - maximum negative EOS camber - front and rear -, left to right swapping of the tyres, both front and rear, and respect of the tyre blanket strategies.

He added that the checks would also be carried out at future events, and until further notice.

While there is no suggestion that Rosberg's Mercedes was running outside any of the prescribed parameters the timing of the TD seemed to suggest that Pirelli faced some concerns after this morning's FP1 session. There has been controversy at Spa in past years, notably related to cambers.

However, a Pirelli spokesman told this writer that the TD was a result of a routine meeting yesterday, and that nothing untoward was spotted in FP1 today.

The TD said: "Once again we have been asked by Pirelli, for reasons of safety, to ensure that all tyres are used as laid out in '15R11SPA Preview,' circulated to all teams on 28 July, checks on the following parameters will made randomly."

It is understood that the reminder came after the FIA measured some unusually high tyre blanket temperatures in Hungary. Today's note was a copy of one issued in Budapest in 2013.

[void]

As far as I'm concerned, this is either no penalty or a sporting infringement. There are no technical rules or directives telling about tyre pressures.

However, the sporting rules feature a catch-all rule due safety. Perhaps something the fia could use, but a dsq seems unlikely.

I read on Brazilian press that only Ferrari and Mercedes were checked tyre pressure. Or they check them all or nothing to do.

[jknights]

So once again the real villian in the piece is really Pirelli. They just cant make tyres that can be run unless they are very finely controlled.
This is not a safety issue this is an issue of the administrators causing a headache in the sport due to messing with the rules and wanting tyres that 'break' but dont want it to be a safety issue that falls in their lap!