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Lewis Hamilton crushed all hope early on at Monza by sprinting away to lead the Italian Grand Prix from start to finish. Sebastian Vettel did salvage the Ferrari fans by finished second, ahead of former Ferrari man Felipe Massa in the Williams.
Especially if your name is Blatter or Ecclestone!Just_a_fan wrote:Agreed. Sadly, every sport appears to run by people who gain financially these days.jknights wrote:.
The sport needs to have a better set of administrators with no personal financial interests.
For Ricciardo's case.. It was not a matter of fuel flow rate, it was much worse; RedBull were using their own flow-meter and not the FIA mandated one.basti313 wrote:Wrong tires last race have been a drive through. I guess that will be the result due to political reasons. But a DSQ would also be possible like Ric last year. I do not see anything speaking against these two possibilities, no penalty will not happen if the pressure was really too low and not a measurement error or disagreement on how to measure.
Didn't they used both, but in effect ignore the official readings and relied solely on their own fuel rail.PlatinumZealot wrote:For Ricciardo's case.. It was not a matter of fuel flow rate, it was much worse; RedBull were using their own flow-meter and not the FIA mandated one.basti313 wrote:Wrong tires last race have been a drive through. I guess that will be the result due to political reasons. But a DSQ would also be possible like Ric last year. I do not see anything speaking against these two possibilities, no penalty will not happen if the pressure was really too low and not a measurement error or disagreement on how to measure.
it wasn't according to the Pirelli engineer looking over their shoulder as they set it.SimRacer wrote:If it wouldn't be an advantage the Team wouldn't have inflated .3 PSI lower...TAG wrote:Curious to know how a .3 PSI difference on ONE tire is an advantage. Curious to know if it's approved by Pirelli when it's being filled and it's lower when it gets to the grid how there's anything anyone can do about it. Curious to know how they know an issue exisist yet allow just about the entirety of a race to go on before a descision is made to notify Mercedes that they're under investigation.
It's not like the race stewards haven't been paid off to give Ferrari a win before, this attempt is just... more brazen. Let's hope this doesn't have to be settled in the courts three months from now.
"All I know is we set our pressures fully supervised by the Pirelli engineer, he was perfectly happy with them, as they were set." - Paddy Lowe
This is very different benefit though, if any at all. A few milimeters lower ride height can take seconds of your race time. Where a 0.3 psi lower pressure does not even last, once HAM did his lauch off the grid for the formation lap that pressure would immediately shoot right back into range. There was no performance benefit from it. Mercedes' telemetry was showing the pressure to be in specification at all times so there you go.SimRacer wrote:From the top of my head Schumacher was DQ in Spa in '94 over a couple of milliliters off the limit on his wood plank floor. The Mclarens were DQ from the 2000's Brazilian GP over a few millimeters in the rear wings as were there Saubers in the 2011's Australian GP... so there's nothing new about it.
They used the FIA measuring device but ran the engine according to their own flow calculation.PlatinumZealot wrote:For Ricciardo's case.. It was not a matter of fuel flow rate, it was much worse; RedBull were using their own flow-meter and not the FIA mandated one.basti313 wrote:Wrong tires last race have been a drive through. I guess that will be the result due to political reasons. But a DSQ would also be possible like Ric last year. I do not see anything speaking against these two possibilities, no penalty will not happen if the pressure was really too low and not a measurement error or disagreement on how to measure.
You need to watch Hamilton's and Vettel's post race PC. It's absolutely classy and I doff my hat to both. Vettel has nothing to do with all this. Please don't even hint at such things. I don't think one Ferrari fan will be happy with this win. Winning is about winning fair and in the moment more importantly. This is completely down to Pirelli and the FIA and no one else. I don't think booing Hamilton on the podium was cool or called for and if you notice Vettel clearly asked the crowd to calm down.Spoutnik wrote:Always and always issues with those Pirelli crap tires ..
If this was a "SECURITY" recommandations, why, tell me why they let Hamilton and mostly Rosberg go ?
What advantage Mercedes gaining with only 1 tyre at the rear with -0.03 PSI ?
Why the investigation was launch at 15h04 if they hold the result 1 hour before ? And above all why they control only the two Ferrari and Merc car
This is a joke again, for a Vettel win at home. Hamilton raped everything today he deserve the win.
Have they? I was arguing strongly two weeks ago that we should wait to find out the result of the investigation, and was accused of being an "apologist" for doing so. I'm not saying anything about Pirelli at all today. My beef is entirely with the way that the FIA have handled the issue - they let an "unsafe" car run - the question is why, do they either a) not care about safety, or b) don't think that this is actually a safety issue.Juzh wrote:Funny how pirelli apologists 2 weeks ago have suddenly become their biggest nemesis.
SimRacer wrote:As opposed to Mercedes using their own tire pressure and not the FIA mandated one?PlatinumZealot wrote:For Ricciardo's case.. It was not a matter of fuel flow rate, it was much worse; RedBull were using their own flow-meter and not the FIA mandated one.basti313 wrote:Wrong tires last race have been a drive through. I guess that will be the result due to political reasons. But a DSQ would also be possible like Ric last year. I do not see anything speaking against these two possibilities, no penalty will not happen if the pressure was really too low and not a measurement error or disagreement on how to measure.
Yeah.. I think Mercedes bought those tyre pressures because the tyre pressures FIA were handing out were not accurate enough. Mercedes also planned to use Michellin tyres to use with the new tyre pressures too...