I think it will be business as usual. Mercedes. Ferrari then red bull. Ferrari brings its upgraded turbocharger to Canada. Redbull claims a 5tenths improvement. The last time we had Ferrari not messing up quali on somewhat normal tracks their gap to red bull was 9tenths... lets forget that Ferrari is getting their much needed turbo upgrade and give red bullThat 5tenths , it still wouldnt be enough to be on par with the Ferrari PU. I think the last 2 tracks have inflated red bulls pace in most peoples eyes Barcelona where a faster Ferrari couldnt get past and Monaco where downforce and driver confidence matter more than PU powerSectorOne wrote:Red Bull and Ferrari will probably have a little fight here. I expect Mercedes to resume their modus operandi of being in a different class. Especially around a stop and go track like this.
Williams the dark horse here i think. Probably gate-keepers.
If someone gets stuck behind, they stay behind.
Completely agree.. you forgot to mention that Ferrari has been running their engine at less than maximum because of their turbo issues..they get the new turbo for canada so thats that....GPR-A wrote:When the qualifying performances are analyzed, between Ferrari and Red Bull for the entire year, it is clear that Ferrari has had a considerable advantage of around 8 tenths to a second. It's another story that Ferrari didn't manage put a good show in China and their drivers screwed up the qualifying. But the gap has been quite large, more so in Bahrain and Russia. They should have every reason to feel confident for the next few races, with upcoming power hungry circuits.
Now, with Renault having brought an upgrade, which is rumored to be giving half a second advantage over a lap (still remains to be seen), the gap wouldn't really diminish, unless Red Bull introduces a dramatic upgrade on the chassis. Just with PU upgrade, the gap would still be somewhere around 3 tenths to half a second.
There is no real reason for Ferrari to be concerned, unless they continue to surprise themselves with their unique ways of screwing themselves. If they can manage to keep their heads in the right place, they should return from Montreal with rich haul of points. Definitely more than Red Bull.
Needless to say, Mercedes would be in a league of their own here.
Oh, come Q3, lightening strikes on Lewis' car OR he would probably have a losely fitted exhaust pipe this time OR water gets leaked under his seat and Toto comes out and says, "Both caaarsss (read in his accent) had probllems, more so on Lewis than Nico's" !!!
Right. They did had a detuned PU for China, that brought Red Bull closer to them.giantfan10 wrote:Completely agree.. you forgot to mention that Ferrari has been running their engine at less than maximum because of their turbo issues..they get the new turbo for canada so thats that....
Of course red bull fans dont want to hear that their team was flattered by barcelona and monaco due to their layouts...
They are talking about the turbo upgrade. Thats a badly written article. The facts are Ferrari WILL bring the upgraded turbo to canada... the issue is whether they will be allowed to upgrade the turbo using the reliability clause or if they will be forced to use tokens. Arrivabene said so pretty ckearly in the article i readGPR-A wrote:Right. They did had a detuned PU for China, that brought Red Bull closer to them.giantfan10 wrote:Completely agree.. you forgot to mention that Ferrari has been running their engine at less than maximum because of their turbo issues..they get the new turbo for canada so thats that....
Of course red bull fans dont want to hear that their team was flattered by barcelona and monaco due to their layouts...
They did introduced a performance upgrade in Russia for their PU by spending 3 tokens. I am not sure if that was to fix their turbo issues. With that upgrade, they again moved away from Red Bull. They are now planning another upgrade for Canada.
Link - Ferrari considering engine upgrade for Canada
Honestly this upgrade is Ferrari's last hope for 2016. If this delivers what they are expecting then definitely there is still a chance that Ferrari is yet to throw in the towel. From Canada GP to the summer break its crucial. If nothing goes as per expectations then the summer break should plan and focus on 2017.GPR-A wrote:Right. They did had a detuned PU for China, that brought Red Bull closer to them.giantfan10 wrote:Completely agree.. you forgot to mention that Ferrari has been running their engine at less than maximum because of their turbo issues..they get the new turbo for canada so thats that....
Of course red bull fans dont want to hear that their team was flattered by barcelona and monaco due to their layouts...
They did introduced a performance upgrade in Russia for their PU by spending 3 tokens. I am not sure if that was to fix their turbo issues. With that upgrade, they again moved away from Red Bull. They are now planning another upgrade for Canada.
Link - Ferrari considering engine upgrade for Canada