2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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Just a suggestion to those who find the races boring: open up the live timing on f1.com or get the app, and get yourself a bit more involved in what's happening that you aren't being shown by the usual broadcast. You'll be surprised how much following the gaps or spotting who's doing personal best sectors fills the spaces that might otherwise become tedious.

I haven't watched a boring race for years.

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I'll second that. Bought the monthly access so I could have live commentary when I went to Montreal, then had it open while watching Baku. It was definitely more engaging and I probably would have fallen asleep otherwise.

Seems like we still haven't seen a great indication from Ferrari or RedBull, what with the messy weekends and not getting tyres to work. Hoping for a trouble free weekend, can't wait to see those middle sector times.

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Phil wrote:Okay, thanks! Nico has gone well in 2014 too, so I'm going to predict another hard and difficult weekend for Hamilton fans. Happy to be surprised though. In any case, I'm just praying for a genuine race between the two, not hampered by strategy or a stuffed up start or something.

Will be interesting to see how close the rest are too.
While Mercedes start as firm favorites, I'm predicting a Sebastian Vettel special! I have a feeling he's going to split the Mercedes on the starting grid and win the race!
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f1316 wrote:
Juzh wrote:Will also be interesting to see whether ferrari has gone forwards or backwards. 0.4s difference last year in Q3.
Yeah, I think this is Ferrari's best chance of pole so far this year. It's similar to Canada but Ferrari were closer here last year and Marchionne alluded to the engine actually not being completely fixed until Austria - so there's more performance than Canada.

I think the gap in Baku had a lot to do with the length of the lap and Mercedes advantage with harvesting and deployment (remember that Spa was one of Ferrari's weakest points relative to Mercedes powered cars), so this won't be an issue at another short lap circuit.

I'm going to optimistically say Vettel for pole and win.
A pole sounds too optimistic taking into accoun how fast Nico and Lewis are and that they have "magic botton". But a third position and a great start could give the victory to Sebastian if the strategy is good.

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Vasconia wrote:
f1316 wrote:
Juzh wrote:Will also be interesting to see whether ferrari has gone forwards or backwards. 0.4s difference last year in Q3.
Yeah, I think this is Ferrari's best chance of pole so far this year. It's similar to Canada but Ferrari were closer here last year and Marchionne alluded to the engine actually not being completely fixed until Austria - so there's more performance than Canada.

I think the gap in Baku had a lot to do with the length of the lap and Mercedes advantage with harvesting and deployment (remember that Spa was one of Ferrari's weakest points relative to Mercedes powered cars), so this won't be an issue at another short lap circuit.

I'm going to optimistically say Vettel for pole and win.
A pole sounds too optimistic taking into accoun how fast Nico and Lewis are and that they have "magic botton". But a third position and a great start could give the victory to Sebastian if the strategy is good.
Seb can get pole here! It just needs to all come together.
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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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I just hope Alo does not end up on top of Rai again like last year! He had cold tyres and struggled for traction which unfortunately led to the accident, Hopefully, the Ferraris will be able to switch their tyres early on, they seem to struggle early on in cold temp conditions. I don't mean to be a fanboy here, but I genuinely want to see both Seb and Kimi secure a podium.
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Schuttelberg wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
f1316 wrote:
Yeah, I think this is Ferrari's best chance of pole so far this year. It's similar to Canada but Ferrari were closer here last year and Marchionne alluded to the engine actually not being completely fixed until Austria - so there's more performance than Canada.

I think the gap in Baku had a lot to do with the length of the lap and Mercedes advantage with harvesting and deployment (remember that Spa was one of Ferrari's weakest points relative to Mercedes powered cars), so this won't be an issue at another short lap circuit.

I'm going to optimistically say Vettel for pole and win.
A pole sounds too optimistic taking into accoun how fast Nico and Lewis are and that they have "magic botton". But a third position and a great start could give the victory to Sebastian if the strategy is good.
Seb can get pole here! It just needs to all come together.
Yeah, I think the theory is that Ferrari will have a similar 'magic button' (or the ability to fully use it, rather) from Austria

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f1316 wrote:
Schuttelberg wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
A pole sounds too optimistic taking into accoun how fast Nico and Lewis are and that they have "magic botton". But a third position and a great start could give the victory to Sebastian if the strategy is good.
Seb can get pole here! It just needs to all come together.
Yeah, I think the theory is that Ferrari will have a similar 'magic button' (or the ability to fully use it, rather) from Austria
Agreed. For qualifying I'm thinking:

Ferrari
Merc
RB
Williams/FI
TR
McLaren

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Where did this information about Ferrari getting a better qualy mode come from?
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ChrisDanger wrote:Just a suggestion to those who find the races boring: open up the live timing on f1.com or get the app, and get yourself a bit more involved in what's happening that you aren't being shown by the usual broadcast. You'll be surprised how much following the gaps or spotting who's doing personal best sectors fills the spaces that might otherwise become tedious.

I haven't watched a boring race for years.
Agreed. I also find some tracks are much more interesting when watching the onboard channel rather than the normal broadcast.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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1:06 for pole. Ferrari gets its first win. Rain on Friday.
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GPR-A wrote:
godlameroso wrote:1:06 for pole. Ferrari gets its first win. Rain on Friday.
Someone should start a "Dream Series" thread. May be a Ferrari would then win on MERIT (of the dreamer). :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well a win under the rain could be on merit too, because Hamilton is truly fast under the rain. Too bad that Rosberg seems not to like the rain haha.

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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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I expect Mercedes to dominate Q and Race.
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I don't Ferrari was barely slower than Mercedes last year in race pace and was very close in qualifying. Given that they were even closer this year in Montreal, I can see this being one of the tracks where Mercedes won't run away with it. The straights aren't that long, more time is made up under braking and acceleration than outright straight line speed, and the final sector plays into Ferrari and Red Bull's strengths.
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Re: 2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

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I bet on a pole in low 1:06 and VET third with 0.15 sec gap, barrying Classic Ferrari tyre problems