VES??? You mean VER
Yes 2 time this year for Max!
VES??? You mean VER
I think the points are well balanced.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:14The Vettel hate is strong!
Classy of @Phil to post what he did.
Unbelivable.radosav wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:16https://youtu.be/sCV_K6QEuDg
Vet should be punished for this, amateurish driving.
I'd say emotions just running high on the moment. My initial reaction too was to pull Vettel over. It needs some cooling down to put into perspective. Vettel was clumsy to destroy his front wing and not to react on Hamilton having to lift off for Verstappen, no way around that. But, first lap accidents are always treated lenient and in that regard no action was warranted. A shame though it ruined both their races.
Also doing exactly what a Verstappen got a penalty for 7 days ago. And getting away with it Scott free.turbof1 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:20I'd say emotions just running high on the moment. My initial reaction too was to pull Vettel over. It needs some cooling down to put into perspective. Vettel was clumsy to destroy his front wing and not to react on Hamilton having to lift off for Verstappen, no way around that. But, first lap accidents are always treated lenient and in that regard no action was warranted. A shame though it ruined both their races.
That was done tongue in cheek. Excuse the pun.Restomaniac wrote:Doubtful.
Vettel has class. You also seem to have missed SKY having parked themselves up Ferrari and Vettel's collective anus all season.
Sorry but Vettel took a nibble out of both Verstappen and Hamilton. That's amateur hour and I'm surprised he is normally far better than that.Phil wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:30I have to defend Vettel here about the start incident. At the same time, i applaud Lewis for actually attempting such a ballsy move. Max and Seb compromised each other and Hamilton who set himself up nicely got a much better run into the chicane which enabled him to overtake Seb.
The only problem was that Max came driving out on corner exit, which caused Hamilton to lift to not have his wing shaved off by Max. This in turn took Seb by surprised who ended up much closer to Hamilton and slit his rear.
Very unfortunate “race incident” and i wouldnt attribute blame on Sebs part.
I do have to say though, what seriously impressed me by Hamilton at this race was his ability to avoid his frontwing taken off. There were various instances, with Verstappen at the start, Massa and multiple times with Alonso where he was gauging perfectly if and how long to stay alongside. In Alonsos case, he was at the very limit and backed at just the last moment when realizing that he was about to be chopped. Amazing judgement there.
I also think one of the reason why Hamilton failed to get by Sainz for way too long is because Sainz had DRS from Wehrlein. So the advantage was smaller. Also Sainz also had fresh new tires. Vettel had the benefit of not loosing that much time from the first lap incident so he was mostly facing other cars on worse tires who werent already benefitting by DRS. And the Ferrari i think is clearly stronger in another cars wake.
Rubbish.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:32Your hate is well renowned.Restomaniac wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:18I think the points are well balanced.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:14The Vettel hate is strong!
Classy of @Phil to post what he did.
Only blind loyalty would make you not see the questionable moves (plural).
Once it was obvious that the title was gone, Vettel wouldn't have wanted to swap places I think. Why be on the podium in front of the crowds when all you really want to do is be somewhere quiet with your thoughts?
Awww. You should go do something about that. Get him to retire!Restomaniac wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:35Rubbish.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:32Your hate is well renowned.Restomaniac wrote: ↑29 Oct 2017, 23:18I think the points are well balanced.
Only blind loyalty would make you not see the questionable moves (plural).
Your blind loyalty however. Let me guess Vettel didn't do anything wrong? Correct?