2018 Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal June 8-10

[PlatinumZealot]

In fact McLaren's downturn coincides with Boullier's hiring by the team. How this man is still in a job is beyond me.

McLaren have been bad for a long time. There's a reason Hamilton left and it wasn't because Boullier joined.

McLaren are a disgrace after blaming everything on Honda last year. Look at them now. I have avoided the team thread to protect my neck. I rather keep my head on my shoulders; they really don't take too kindly to McLaren crticis in there.

[Vasconia]

Congratulations to Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel. New PU versus a 6 race old Mercedes PU and they manage to put their car on Pole by 0.093 seconds! It's almost as if they're down on power. Let's pretend nothing happened and hit the reset button on the season. I believe we've got the answers we were looking for.

I'm glad someone noticed this

Count me inside the pessimists camp. It doesn't look good. Anyway they will say Ferrari's PU is on par or above Mercedes. Yeah...

[MtthsMlw]

Hulk is seventh again, this is unreal haha.

[Sierra117]

Hulk is seventh again, this is unreal haha.

Bungie (game studio) should sponsor him (Bungie have a thing for the number 7).

[TAG]

Congratulations to Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel. New PU versus a 6 race old Mercedes PU and they manage to put their car on Pole by 0.093 seconds! It's almost as if they're down on power. Let's pretend nothing happened and hit the reset button on the season. I believe we've got the answers we were looking for.

I'm glad someone noticed this

Count me inside the pessimists camp. It doesn't look good. Anyway they will say Ferrari's PU is on par or above Mercedes. Yeah...

And to be fair, you're right, that's the flip side. Nothing speaks clearer than actual numbers when they're not able to hide a thing.

[Bill_Kar]

Congratulations to Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel. New PU versus a 6 race old Mercedes PU and they manage to put their car on Pole by 0.093 seconds! It's almost as if they're down on power. Let's pretend nothing happened and hit the reset button on the season. I believe we've got the answers we were looking for.

You could even imagine that LH should had stick it on pole based on relative performances with Bottas. It makes the engine gap even scarier.

It certainly was possible. Maybe merc should have brought more hypersoft to allow Lewis to better get the feeling of them (near the limit), he had Lock ups in both Q3 runs now. He could have had pole.

He committed mistakes in Q1 and Q2, even with ultras. I don't really buy the HS thing. I think Hamilton wasn't in the car mentally. You can't just lock up the tires 3 times at the same corner.

[LM10]

Congratulations to Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel. New PU versus a 6 race old Mercedes PU and they manage to put their car on Pole by 0.093 seconds! It's almost as if they're down on power. Let's pretend nothing happened and hit the reset button on the season. I believe we've got the answers we were looking for.

You could even imagine that LH should had stick it on pole based on relative performances with Bottas. It makes the engine gap even scarier.

Didn't Ferrari gain most in S3? Mercedes was faster in curvy S1 (Hamilton 1 tenth of a second faster than Vettel in first Q3 runs).
In his second run, Vettel was a tenth of a second faster after first 2 sectors than in his prior lap, but lost too much in S3. He could have well been about 2 tenths of a second faster than Bottas in the end. And no one knows how much faster Hamilton could have gone. It can very well be that Bottas unleashed the whole potential of the car. You can't just tell he would have been like 3 tenths faster, if he put everything together.

Ferrari's engine update is worth about 10 hp. So it's not a massive jump after all.
Mercedes has been clearly dominating this track for years.

[komninosm]

Stupid TV coverage, they didn't show how Hamilton passed Kimi when he slowed down in the last lap after his fail. Was there any interference or was it clean?
Why do TV coverage show stupid things instead of obvious interesting areas?

I wanted to see that as well, but this sort of coverage seems to be as old as time and honestly I'd say it's only going to get worse with the weird haphazard way Liberty is doing things.

I'm like there is a broadcast director/manager right? What was he thinking? Oh Raikonnen had an out, he's gonna create some trouble for those behind him, let's keep the camera near him and see how Hamilton and Vettel pass him, no let's show some unrelated and UNEXCITING shots of random cars instead.
WTH?!

[Bill_Kar]

Congratulations to Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel. New PU versus a 6 race old Mercedes PU and they manage to put their car on Pole by 0.093 seconds! It's almost as if they're down on power. Let's pretend nothing happened and hit the reset button on the season. I believe we've got the answers we were looking for.

You could even imagine that LH should had stick it on pole based on relative performances with Bottas. It makes the engine gap even scarier.

Didn't Ferrari gain most in S3? Mercedes was faster in curvy S1 (Hamilton 1 tenth of a second faster than Vettel in first Q3 runs).
In his second run, Vettel was a tenth of a second faster after first 2 sectors than in his prior lap, but lost too much in S3. He could have well been about 2 tenths of a second faster than Bottas in the end. And no one knows how much faster Hamilton could have gone. It can very well be that Bottas unleashed the whole potential of the car. You can't just tell he would have been like 3 tenths faster, if he put everything together.

Ferrari's engine update is worth about 10 hp. So it's not a massive jump after all.
Mercedes has been clearly dominating this track for years.

But we don't know exactly how much downforce they were running, it could be that ferrari had a low downforce coefficient.

[GrandAxe]

The Ferrari's suffered graining during practice long runs, so Vettel is unlikely to win this.
If Max can keep from crashing into others (or even arrow straight tarmac), he could have a shout.

My money is on Bottas. Race prediction:

1. Bottas
2. Lewis
3. Max
4. Vettel
5. Kimi
6. Ricciardo
7. Hulk
8. Sainz
9. Occon
10. Perez

[komninosm]

Congratulations to Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel. New PU versus a 6 race old Mercedes PU and they manage to put their car on Pole by 0.093 seconds! It's almost as if they're down on power. Let's pretend nothing happened and hit the reset button on the season. I believe we've got the answers we were looking for.

I'm glad someone noticed this

Count me inside the pessimists camp. It doesn't look good. Anyway they will say Ferrari's PU is on par or above Mercedes. Yeah...

Your reasoning is as nonsense as the rumors that Ferrari got caught cheating and had to downgrade ICE and agree to regulations changes.

What are you going to say next? That Mercedes didn't bring a new PU in this race as they initially planned so as to not show a huge difference right away?

[F1NAC]

Stupid TV coverage, they didn't show how Hamilton passed Kimi when he slowed down in the last lap after his fail. Was there any interference or was it clean?
Why do TV coverage show stupid things instead of obvious interesting areas?

I wanted to see that as well, but this sort of coverage seems to be as old as time and honestly I'd say it's only going to get worse with the weird haphazard way Liberty is doing things.

I'm like there is a broadcast director/manager right? What was he thinking? Oh Raikonnen had an out, he's gonna create some trouble for those behind him, let's keep the camera near him and see how Hamilton and Vettel pass him, no let's show some unrelated and UNEXCITING shots of random cars instead.
WTH?!

Well ot was shown how Kimi quickly moved off the line as soon as LH appeared behind

[TAG]

In fact McLaren's downturn coincides with Boullier's hiring by the team. How this man is still in a job is beyond me.

McLaren have been bad for a long time. There's a reason Hamilton left and it wasn't because Boullier joined.

McLaren are a disgrace after blaming everything on Honda last year. Look at them now. I have avoided the team thread to protect my neck. I rather keep my head on my shoulders; they really don't take too kindly to McLaren crticis in there.

They got rid of Hamilton in 2012 and it hasn't been the same since. We'll probably not hear a peep from anyone about them having the best chassis this season though. I'm hoping against all hope that Red Bull picks Honda for their next season, it will say a lot which PU Red Bull goes for knowing that they have the numbers on both. If Red Bull go with Honda it will be that every decision the team has made since that fateful Spa 2012 even has been the wrong one. I feel for Alonso now but the silver lining is that given Williams' performance McLaren can at least slink away noticed and begin a genuine rebuild effort with a German PU for 2021.

Bittersweet season so far.

[siskue2005]

Congratulations to Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel. New PU versus a 6 race old Mercedes PU and they manage to put their car on Pole by 0.093 seconds! It's almost as if they're down on power. Let's pretend nothing happened and hit the reset button on the season. I believe we've got the answers we were looking for.

I'm glad someone noticed this

Count me inside the pessimists camp. It doesn't look good. Anyway they will say Ferrari's PU is on par or above Mercedes. Yeah...

or it could be that Ferrari did have stop their trick ERS and Turbo oil stuff...which would be equate to 0.3 sec laptime

[LM10]

You could even imagine that LH should had stick it on pole based on relative performances with Bottas. It makes the engine gap even scarier.

Didn't Ferrari gain most in S3? Mercedes was faster in curvy S1 (Hamilton 1 tenth of a second faster than Vettel in first Q3 runs).
In his second run, Vettel was a tenth of a second faster after first 2 sectors than in his prior lap, but lost too much in S3. He could have well been about 2 tenths of a second faster than Bottas in the end. And no one knows how much faster Hamilton could have gone. It can very well be that Bottas unleashed the whole potential of the car. You can't just tell he would have been like 3 tenths faster, if he put everything together.

Ferrari's engine update is worth about 10 hp. So it's not a massive jump after all.
Mercedes has been clearly dominating this track for years.

But we don't know exactly how much downforce they were running, it could be that ferrari had a low downforce coefficient.

It could be, yes, but we don't know, like you told. So I don't understand why this arrogant comment of TAG has to be? Also (in an indirect way) accusing Ferrari of having cheated. That's just unnecessary.

In fact, Ferrari has done a very nice job from yesterday to today. In FP1 and FP2 they clearly and also reportedly were struggling with setup. Mercedes was on top of their car from beginning. You can argue this being an advantage going into FP3 and Qualifying.