I think your point is fair that it can't be 0.5 second there. I think, other than power, i don't know how the driveability gets affected for that PU. That must account for something.LM10 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 11:46GPA-R, of course it's not, but people here tell that 6 races is equal to a time loss of easily 0.5 seconds. Ferrari's engine was worn half of that last year. If 0.5 seconds was right, the 0.25 sec difference between Vettel and Hamilton in Q3 must have been only because of different engine ages. But I highly doubt that. Mercedes should have easily gotten pole with at least 0.25 sec gap even if Ferrari had been on a new spec too.
so they lost it when filling up oil during Qualifying was banned on from Barcelona?!Phil wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:00It’s only a 0.5s gap because you are comparing an ‘old’ engine to a ‘new’ engine on a track where power matters. As a Ferrari fan, i’d find it quite concerning that Ferrari were mostly quite comfortably on pole this year (exception being Australia and everything after Baku), but now suddenly dont seem to have that edge anymore.
It was told that Mercedes' pace deficit mostly was due to not being able to put the tyres in right window. Why is it pure power difference now?Phil wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:00It’s only a 0.5s gap because you are comparing an ‘old’ engine to a ‘new’ engine on a track where power matters. As a Ferrari fan, i’d find it quite concerning that Ferrari were mostly quite comfortably on pole this year (exception being Australia and everything after Baku), but now suddenly dont seem to have that edge anymore.
Well the fact that Vettel was hardly faster than Kimi seems mostly over looked. What does that say about the old spec vs the new? I'm hoping the new spec was about economy more than anything else so race pace is improved.search wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:09so they lost it when filling up oil during Qualifying was banned on from Barcelona?!Phil wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:00It’s only a 0.5s gap because you are comparing an ‘old’ engine to a ‘new’ engine on a track where power matters. As a Ferrari fan, i’d find it quite concerning that Ferrari were mostly quite comfortably on pole this year (exception being Australia and everything after Baku), but now suddenly dont seem to have that edge anymore.
If that's the reason, it's concerning indeed
7 is number 1 in the midfield universe. Hulk should be the midfield champion if he car was reliable. I think Alonso is leading it.
The engine software is smart enough to increase boost to make up for any wear in piston rings. At higher rpms the leakage should reduce too. Wolf said it was 1.5 tenths of second the most. And that is old old spec to new new spec. In other words the peak engine power is not that much improved in the new spec engine it is some other aspects like mid ramge power, endurance and reliability.LM10 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 11:46GPA-R, of course it's not, but people here tell that 6 races is equal to a time loss of easily 0.5 seconds. Ferrari's engine was worn half of that last year. If 0.5 seconds was right, the 0.25 sec difference between Vettel and Hamilton in Q3 must have been only because of different engine ages. But I highly doubt that. Mercedes should have easily gotten pole with at least 0.25 sec gap even if Ferrari had been on a new spec too.