2018 Mexico Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 26-28 October

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The clocks have changed in some parts of the world (but not in mine), and not surprisingly, formula1.com is struggling to inform me of the start time in my local time zone. I am now given to believe that the race will start 5 hours from now, instead of 4 as promised yesterday. What is the correct start time?

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notsofast wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 16:09
The clocks have changed in some parts of the world (but not in mine), and not surprisingly, formula1.com is struggling to inform me of the start time in my local time zone. I am now given to believe that the race will start 5 hours from now, instead of 4 as promised yesterday. What is the correct start time?
What is your timezone? Here in New Zealand it will start in 5 hours.
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The image at the end with the bits of track coloured in shows that Max is carrying more speed into the big braking zones but Daniel is sewing up the twisty parts a bit better.
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notsofast wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 16:09
The clocks have changed in some parts of the world (but not in mine), and not surprisingly, formula1.com is struggling to inform me of the start time in my local time zone. I am now given to believe that the race will start 5 hours from now, instead of 4 as promised yesterday. What is the correct start time?
Major grievance of mine lately; the website and app used to do the conversion for timezones for you. The countdown is fine but I dunno why they decided to remove the conversion. Too user friendly I guess.

FWIW mine says 4:45 to race start. That number should be same regardless of zone.

Edit: App now has "My Time" and "Track Time"... maybe I just overlooked this before? If not...egg on face.
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notsofast wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 16:09
The clocks have changed in some parts of the world (but not in mine), and not surprisingly, formula1.com is struggling to inform me of the start time in my local time zone. I am now given to believe that the race will start 5 hours from now, instead of 4 as promised yesterday. What is the correct start time?
The correct start time is 19:10 GMT so just under five hours from now (14:26 GMT)
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4 hours, 2 minutes till the race... 16:08 here and race starting at 20:10.


Just saw the highlights of last years race. Can't wait for the first 5 laps to make it special!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 16:02
Fulcrum wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 04:20
Given the altitude has a much more pronounced effect on Mercedes and Ferrari than Renault, is it reasonable to suggest that Renault's turbocharger is more effective than that of Ferrari and Mercedes?

My reasoning being, we know the Renault engine is inferior to both, yet here both Renault and Red Bull are extremely competitive - Renault especially. Given power drop off with altitude is relatively linear, the only method of compensation would be differential of turbo performance.

What do we know of the Renault turbo relative to that of Ferrari and Mercedes? E.g. size, RPM, etc...

It also could be the case the Renault's battery and charging system is more efficient, meaning they can produce full(er) charge from reduced engine power output.

Just speculation on my part, and I'm not an engine expert, but the data here seems to provide some evidence toward highlighting architectural differences.
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Alonso split the Force India's so I think my question warrants more than a throwaway 1-liner.

Pointing at McLaren is to point at the outlier, not the trend. As a cohort, the Renault powered cars are significantly faster than normal.

I'm not saying there has to be some attribute of their engine influencing performance.

My question is, what part of the architecture of the current F1 engines would be most impacted by altitude, what component the least, and could it be the case that the Renault is least influenced by these factors (relative to Ferrari and Mercedes) as a result of their particularly architectural strengths?

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 16:13
The image at the end with the bits of track coloured in shows that Max is carrying more speed into the big braking zones but Daniel is sewing up the twisty parts a bit better.
There was one particular place where Ricciardo got back most of the time he lost in the first section, and that is in turns 10 and 11. On the short straight between 9 and 10, he managed to get the car from the right side all the way to the left, so he had much wider entry into 10. Verstappen had about a meter or even more on his left when he turned in.

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the height of the circuit favours cars with a good high DF coefficient setup (RB)
it's like a street circuit but more time is spent in cornering as the corners are faster but actual DF is not high
so because actual DF is not high grip is not high so the more powerful engines can't use their power as much

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Juzh wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 12:41
some laps

verstappen vs ham q3
https://streamable.com/wt6ov
https://streamable.com/wt6ov
You're doing god's work. When you watch with pauses in the middle, you can clearly see Hamilton is a tiny wee bit ahead up until the stadium section, where Max promptly catches and overtakes him, and starts to pull clear. He completes the combo coming out of the final corner with a clearly much better exit. One can clearly deduce which car is faster corner by corner, even coming into and out of one.

Fantastic comparison.
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notsofast wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 16:09
The clocks have changed in some parts of the world (but not in mine), and not surprisingly, formula1.com is struggling to inform me of the start time in my local time zone. I am now given to believe that the race will start 5 hours from now, instead of 4 as promised yesterday. What is the correct start time?
To avoid confusion, always check the local race times on the FIA website and then do the math from there. You can also use google or the world clock om your phone to show you the correct local time of that country where the race is held...
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I'm using autosport schedule on their home page. You can convert to your local time

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59 and partly sunny at the moment, looks like the rain will stay away. Or maybe not.
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Also braking. The redbull makes ground on the mercedes under braking after each straight.
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Shrieker wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 18:13
Juzh wrote:
28 Oct 2018, 12:41
verstappen vs ham q3
https://streamable.com/wt6ov
https://streamable.com/wt6ov
You're doing god's work. When you watch with pauses in the middle, you can clearly see Hamilton is a tiny wee bit ahead up until the stadium section, where Max promptly catches and overtakes him, and starts to pull clear. He completes the combo coming out of the final corner with a clearly much better exit. One can clearly deduce which car is faster corner by corner, even coming into and out of one.

Fantastic comparison.
The stadium section is just like some of the side-by-side comparisons at Monaco between Red Bull vs Ferrari/Merc/Etc. The Red Bull has an amazing ability to be actively driven all the way through slow twisty little corners, but the other cars all understeer and have to be kind of passively guided through there. This of course limits how soon they can get on power coming out. You can see Hamilton taking a smidge more curb through the stadium, more by car/understeer necessity than driver choice.