F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

[Capharol]

Only 1.2 sec faster as verstappen on c3 ..... not impressed
And only 0.4 on Vettel who is on c4

[NathanOlder]

S1 - 21.905
S2 - 28.454
S3 - 26.189

were Bottas 3 sector times. That was over a tenth slower than Sainz in S1 today. So surely the Mercedes has time in hand in S1 , or has Renault got a beast of an engine for that 1st sector ?

Do we know Leclerc's 3 sector times from yesterday ?? Would really like to know.

[NathanOlder]

Only 1.2 sec faster as verstappen on c3 ..... not impressed
And only 0.4 on Vettel who is on c4

So 1.2 faster for 2 compounds difference.
Vertsappens time on C3 is only 3 tenths faster than Lewis on the C2's. equally not impressive. only 3 tenths for 1 compound difference.

[Jozsusz]

16.5 now for Bottas on the C5. Merc slowly starting to show some pace, although still 3 tenths off Ferrari on the same tyre.

Yep, still not fast enough.
But Bottas is still ways slower in the first and second sectors speed traps. Yesterday Leclerc was faster.

[NathanOlder]

16.5 now for Bottas on the C5. Merc slowly starting to show some pace, although still 3 tenths off Ferrari on the same tyre.

Yep, still not fast enough.
But Bottas is still ways slower in the first and second sectors speed traps. Yesterday Leclerc was faster.

Yeah, would suggest a higher engine mode on the Ferrari yesterday. Would love to see the sectore times from Leclercs lap

[JPBD1990]

16.5 now for Bottas on the C5. Merc slowly starting to show some pace, although still 3 tenths off Ferrari on the same tyre.

Yep, still not fast enough.
But Bottas is still ways slower in the first and second sectors speed traps. Yesterday Leclerc was faster.

Yeah, would suggest a higher engine mode on the Ferrari yesterday. Would love to see the sectore times from Leclercs lap

There is a comment from Toto floating around claiming that Leclerc’s engine mode on his fastest lap was reduced over a 1:18 lap he did - so I think fuel load remains the biggest unknown.

Also, Toto could infamously be full of s***

[Jambier]

No one is flat out, difficult to compare.

I think teams are setting a particular engine mode + a particular fuel load for their performance runs.
Then they can't test setups on this base.

On Renault for instance they did last week 1.17.4, this week again, and then 1.17.2 and 1.17.1
I assume this is with exactly same fuel load and engine mode

Maybe McLaren have another engine mode, and 10kg fuel less. We don't know (and I hope for Renault they are heavy because it seems slow)

Leclerc said yesterday that he was of course not flat out

[iotar__]

Here you go:
Race sim of Verstappen:

First stint on C3: Outlap - 1:23.0 - 1:23.2 - 1:23.3 - 1:23.3 - 1:23.4 - 1:23.4 - 1:23.4 - 1:23.6 - 1:23.7 - 1:23.7 - 1:23.8 - 1:23.8 - 1:24.2 - 1:24.0 - 1:24.1 - 1:24.3 - Inlap

Second stint on C2: Outlap - 1:22.4 - 1:22.3 - 1:22.4 - 1:22.5 - 1:22.4 - 1:22.4 - 1:22.6 - 1:22.7 - 1:22.9 - 1:22.7 - 1:22.9 - 1:23.1 - 1:23.8 (traffic) - 1:22.4 - 1:43.9 (traffic or mistake) - 1:23.9 - 1:23.1 - 1:22.6 - Inlap

Third stint on unmarked tires: Outlap - 1:21.6 - 1:21.6 - 1:21.4 - Inlap

I am not sure if they are race sim. They are usual stints of testing. A race sim involves no break in between stints and involves only tyre changes. What ferrari did yesterday, is not an ideal race stint as you don't do a race on single type of tyre. You count the laps from the times you have posted and its only 37 laps.

They were simulating a normal race length while powered by Honda

BTW Honda's logo on a car couldn't be smaller. Not bang for the buck deal.

[Jozsusz]

16.5 now for Bottas on the C5. Merc slowly starting to show some pace, although still 3 tenths off Ferrari on the same tyre.

Vettel did a 16.9 but he was the fastest on the speed traps in every sector.
So I think that ferrari is using a higher engine mode for sure.

Yep, still not fast enough.
But Bottas is still ways slower in the first and second sectors speed traps. Yesterday Leclerc was faster.

Yeah, would suggest a higher engine mode on the Ferrari yesterday. Would love to see the sectore times from Leclercs lap

[Phil]

Only 1.2 sec faster as verstappen on c3 ..... not impressed
And only 0.4 on Vettel who is on c4

You did see before that Bottas did an identical time on the c4 tire too, right?

[dxpetrov]

I am not sure if they are race sim. They are usual stints of testing. A race sim involves no break in between stints and involves only tyre changes. What ferrari did yesterday, is not an ideal race stint as you don't do a race on single type of tyre. You count the laps from the times you have posted and its only 37 laps.

They were simulating a normal race length while powered by Honda

BTW Honda's logo on a car couldn't be smaller. Not bang for the buck deal.

Honda is not a sponsor, just a supplier.
There's a difference.

[Shader]

What are the chances we see 1.15 times today?? I think Ferrari will pop 1.15

[Jambier]

What are the chances we se 1.15 times today?? I think Ferrari will pop 1.15

Not sure.

Tyres dont last the full lap. Yesterday Leclerc had to be cautious with them to make his time.
It seems that you can maybe be as fast with C4

That's why we will not see absolute pace from teams

[Capharol]

Only 1.2 sec faster as verstappen on c3 ..... not impressed
And only 0.4 on Vettel who is on c4

So 1.2 faster for 2 compounds difference.
Vertsappens time on C3 is only 3 tenths faster than Lewis on the C2's. equally not impressive. only 3 tenths for 1 compound difference.

Maybe Hamilton drove a 1.18.0, but which amount of fuel, how warm was it, was engine turned up, etc.
How much fuel had Verstappen in his car when he drove that lap

I talk about today and even when Bottas isn't showing full power, and IF you wanna pay attention to laptimes (which I generally don't do, because they don't tell the whole story) then you need to put all the data together, track temp, temp, fuelload, turned up engine or not, etc. ..... and as far I can remember, NONE of us here has access to that kind of data.,

But objectivity isn't a strong suit for many users ..... on any forum

[jumpingfish]

S1 - 21.905
S2 - 28.454
S3 - 26.189

were Bottas 3 sector times. That was over a tenth slower than Sainz in S1 today. So surely the Mercedes has time in hand in S1 , or has Renault got a beast of an engine for that 1st sector ?

Do we know Leclerc's 3 sector times from yesterday ?? Would really like to know.